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@salima,

wearing socks is so overrated

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also, i checked out philosophychatforum and to be honest, the small response to threads was disappointing. i am used to a hot and heavy debate turning into 17 pages overnight...i can remember reading through over 60 pages of a thread before i could even make a post. so i dont think it would suit me over there...

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@salima,

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then i noticed my socks dont match...

Well, I'm sure the old A2kers didn't.

A friend of mine went to work with shoes that didn't natch one day.

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@dlowan,

They didn't match either.

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@Theaetetus,

Here are links to existing tags for some of the subjects you seek. As you come across other topics that need further tagging with sub-categories, please add them.

http://able2know.org/forum/ayn_rand/

http://able2know.org/forum/hegel/

http://able2know.org/forum/heidegger/

Using the tag search box that has recently been relocated to the A2K homepage will help find other tagged forums not included on the navigation menu.

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Khethil wrote:

That one day everything you've invested in this home could be sold and integrated somewhere else, not of your choosing, is a bit disconcerting to some folks.

I completely understand where you're coming from.

It really all came down to the money - Justin just couldn't afford the expenses anymore. Not surprisingly, but depressingly, many things come down to the money.

Theaetetus wrote:

That is pretty much how the tagging works. Forums are basically created out of tags. Take a thread on animal rights for example. By tagging it as "ethics," "animals," "animal rights," "values," or other such things places the thread in all of those forum. Thus, threads are cross referenced and the system places them in a logically created dynamic reference hierarchy rather than a static hierarchy.

Well, to be honest, I prefer the more traditional "static hierarchy". I'm not that fond of the idea that anyone can tag a thread as "penis" and a Penis Forum is created. Not that I have anything against penises.

salima wrote:

today i made my first attempt at posting in a regular thread here but i felt like having to get up in front of the class and recite a poem i hadnt had enough time to memorize and then i noticed my socks dont match...

I had a similar feeling. Just realize that many of your old friends are here, salima.

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@Zetherin,

Zetherin wrote:

Theaetetus wrote:
That is pretty much how the tagging works. Forums are basically created out of tags. Take a thread on animal rights for example. By tagging it as "ethics," "animals," "animal rights," "values," or other such things places the thread in all of those forum. Thus, threads are cross referenced and the system places them in a logically created dynamic reference hierarchy rather than a static hierarchy.

Well, to be honest, I prefer the more traditional "static hierarchy". I'm not that fond of the idea that anyone can tag a thread as "penis" and a Penis Forum is created. Not that I have anything against penises.

Well, I have seen a tag "philosofomophizing" or something like that. Sure, it hasn't been used much yet, but it is a stupid tag--well that is if you take philosophy rather seriously. Honestly, I would never read a thread that has that as a popular tag. So I guess it can go both ways. It can be both a deterrent or an encouragement.

The thing I wonder, what's to stop many members going through and tagging things "not philosophy?" I just think of all those reported posts where members complained that something was not something else.

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One way to preserve, at least for now, the old forum hierarchy with which everyone was more or less familiar is to use the cross-reference of Pf forums to a2k tags Robert provided above when starting a new thread. As each of us most likely has these " my tags" already, or is in the process of adding them bit by bit, if we use the same tags for different "forums" this will, I think, make things a lot easier for everyone.

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@Theaetetus,

the tags are one of my pet peeves, if i'm not interested in something i don't tag it, and i don't tag anything in a derogatory fashion, i don't get that at all, if you have something to say, say in the thread, don't just tag it dickhead or whatever

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Yea...

I get how the tagging works (I think), but mine are an utter mess. When I go to "My Tags" there are tons of them; presumably brought over from PF. It appears that if I want to untag those posts/topics, I need to go into each individual one. Unless and until I get so hopelessly bored that rearranging my sock drawer is no longer an option, it's probably not happening.

But for now, surfing New Posts seems to feel good. And yea, I miss a hierarchy that doesn't change constantly or is subject to however people feel like tagging.

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It took Philosophy, as a rigorous discipline, centuries to figure out how its subject matter should be categories into hierarchies, even with the initial help of Aristotle. Today, those acquainted with the subject expect to find discussions appropriately placed in these categories, especially if they have specialised interests.

The structure of Pf followed these, and made it easy for threads to be started in the appropriate category, or found by interested Members of the community. This applied especially to new Members since the structure was apparent. Moderators spent a lot of time attempting to maintain the "integrity" of each forum for this reason.

The functionality of this board's software in providing (and maintaining) such a (more or less formal) structure, while certainly allowing individual tailoring, is awkward at best. But I think it can be done with the co-operation of everyone posting in the philosophy section.

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@Khethil,

hi khethil-
believe it or not i went and removed all the tags. i realized they were only on threads that i myself had started, which were very few and mostly creative writing. so it may be a larger task for you...

but it is easy to find out if you bring up any of the ones in 'my tags' and then you will see how many you have to deal with. do one category a day or a week, if it bothers you as much as it bothered me it will be worth it. delete the existing tags by clicking on the red x and tag whatever you want in your own way. what i did was tag all the threads where we first got here complaining as 'philosophy forum'...then i retagged the ones that came over in the old creative writing as 'my poem' for example, since when i want to subscribe to threads in creative writing i will tag them that way.

there may be tons of tags, but it only matters how many threads there are under a tag...if there is only one or two the job isnt so big as it might appear.

now i am trying to go back and find the threads i was subscribed to on the old forum, which i will tag 'old subscriptions'...and i sure wish i remembered what they were. i always used to try and keep it to a minimum of two pages of threads, but at the moment i cant remember more than one or two titles...

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In the past, it would have been nice to have a subforum for Epictetus--even though he did not have much documentation that survived to study. Now we have an Epictetus forum. Remember how we had to start a group forum for the Thus Spoke Zarathustra? Now we can easily creating reading groups for different books if we wish, and we have a system to file them together.

Of course, the openness of the tagging system and structure of the forum can lead to some eccentricities. But its flexibility and adaptability is rather refreshing.

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Quite true Jg; I've always thought philosophically in terms of the five core disciplines. Which isn't to say there isn't an abundant territory elsewhere ripe for such thoughts

Salima: You're a more patient soul than I am - love that persistence. I don't suppose I could hire you, could ? Smile

Theaetetus: I read a bunch of Epictetus last year. I need to remember to dive in there. As I recall, most of it was quite agreeable/refreshing

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Let's just go back to a static forum and leave tags optional as they always were.

Fine, fine, I know, I know, I'll give it a chance.

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http://www.philosophychatforum.com/ does looks promising..

Structure is a bit rough, but I like it so far.

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@Khethil,

Khethil wrote:

Quite true Jg; I've always thought philosophically in terms of the five core disciplines. Which isn't to say there isn't an abundant territory elsewhere ripe for such thoughts

Salima: You're a more patient soul than I am - love that persistence. I don't suppose I could hire you, could ?

Theaetetus: I read a bunch of Epictetus last year. I need to remember to dive in there. As I recall, most of it was quite agreeable/refreshing

yes, i seem to like tedious work...converted all the files at blue cross in a major city from the terminal digit system to normal numbers...just finished 30,000 mantras for someone who is gravely ill...loved being a file clerk. accounting also appeals to me...only took a year's bookkeeping course in high school but loved every minute of it.

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here are a couple more places to check out:
http://onlinephilosophyclub.com/forums/
http://forum.philosophynow.org/

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@William,

Thank you william. I second that motion. There is no thank you function here so I have to do it by way of replying for now.

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another possibility:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=172156
smaller than ours was but something to look into.

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