I almost woke up - from life!

i was just thinking this morning that i have no hope of reward in paradise, because it would be boring...

but it had something to do with making this world not as worthless as i once thought it was, and wondering if there could ever really be anything better, no matter how much i have complained about it in my life. maybe if we just learn how to work it right...

Maybe to see our granchildren grow and prosper, to guard and guide our friends and family ..Imo there's endless of reasons.

hah. Good story. But I think Mishmish has a serious point there. People do have these experiences, and it is important, for them anyway, to understand what they mean. That I why I referred to the R M Bucke book. It actually provides a theoretical basis for the idea of enlightenment. It is subtitled 'a study in the evolution of the human mind'. Of course, it is not the kind of evolutionary theory that most of your straight ahead scientists will recognize. It says the human species is evolving towards a state called cosmic consciousness, which is as different to ordinary consciousness as human consciousness is to animal consciousness. Bucke then illustrates his theory with reference to a whole series of legendary prophets and sages, including JC, Mohammed, The Buddha, and many others.

There is another guy on the forum who is enthusiastic about hallucinogens. But his posts on topics other than his pet subject show (in my view) lack of insight and lack of education. It is true that you can have glimpses of the higher realms through these experiences. But 'what goes up must come down'. It is possible to have all the experience you like but until it is integrated and stabilized in your day-to-day life, they don't add up to a great deal.

I speak from experience.

Wow, people have been ripping you for your realization. Don't mind them, it gives them a sense of superiority. They are caught in a much more narrow "world" than you.

I actually thought your realization was quite plausible and meaningful. The universe is the "world" of a higher consciousness. Maybe some theists have innate knowledge of that consciousness through their consciousness.

It is true that you can have glimpses of the higher realms through these experiences. But 'what goes up must come down'. It is possible to have all the experience you like but until it is integrated and stabilized in your day-to-day life, they don't add up to a great deal.

The cosmic consciousness theory is very interesting to me and I find it interesting that it references ideas from Carl Jung.

Well that is interesting. Razor's Edge was based on a novel by W. Somerset Maugham (as you probably know) which depicted a world-weary but idealistic young American's search for enlightenment in India. It is said to be a great novel, although I personally don't think much of Bill Murray's film version of it. As for Nietzsche (donning flack jacket and helmet) I don't think he got anywhere near spiritual enlightenment. He was devoured first by ego, then by madness.

That depends if procreation is a product of fear, or desire.

Personally I believe culture instilled in us from an early age that those values you mentioned, such as creating a family, are good reasons to stay in the physical world. These are all valid values (from a cultural point-of-view, unfortunately not beneficial for the physical world), and sure, if you were to build your life on these values, acquiring a family and friends, your position in the "cultural world" could set you up to achieve a happy and good lifestyle. Although lifestyles are illusions for true happiness and in many beliefs are not the reason for life.

I'm sorry that my English isn't so good and sorry for the lengthy post, I am looking for answers and opinions. I will try to explain my story in full detail the best I can and I will do my best to answer any questions that you have for me. Thank you, Mish.

Sitting in a hammock one morning I realized once again that life is simply just a cycle of life and death. This is theme that I find myself thinking about quite often and is nothing unusual to me. After the one thought came a stream of other thoughts that finally lead to something beyond what I can explain or recall experiencing in my whole life. The next few paragraphs are what the streams of thoughts were which lead to a paranormal event.

The first thought that came to me that morning was; what happens between the time-span of the human cycle of life and death is what people call "life" and life as we know it is a perception of a "physical" world that we call Earth. Earth is nothing more than a memory by a higher force - read on.

The next stream of thought was: we as humans take up role playing in our daily life, wearing masks on different settings. We are constantly creating "worlds" in which we play different roles - the husband, the boss, the child. We can choose to be whatever role we want to play in life and often we have multiple roles per day - creating so many worlds within ourselves.

After that, I began remembering various writings by different authors on the topics of GOD and spirituality. One of the topics I remember was based loosely on the theme that we all belong to a higher consciousness and that the universe was created by something "higher" in force. Soon after these streams of thoughts, I experienced a hallucination and I saw little streams of light coming from the cracks in the wall made from bricks.

Within that second, I realized something beyond what I've ever thought - The exact same way that we can create thoughts and memories or dream about things (these conscious-streams are manifestations of different "worlds" - because worlds are memories), something higher has created our universe in the same way. As in we are living in a conscious being which has created a memory of this universe. Here is the interesting part. As soon as I realized that when we DIE, we return to the god-like consciousness, I felt as if I was given the opportunity to awaken. I was presented with the opportunity to wake up from life, become conscious and be connected with the higher conscious.

Before I continue, I would like to hear some of your opinions on what you think about the experience I have written above. Also do you know any books which mention something along the lines of humans and life existing because of a memory created by someone/something higher in force.

The first thought that came to me that morning was; what happens between the time-span of the human cycle of life and death is what people call "life" and life as we know it is a perception of a "physical" world that we call Earth. Earth is nothing more than a memory by a higher force - read on.

The next stream of thought was: we as humans take up role playing in our daily life, wearing masks on different settings. We are constantly creating "worlds" in which we play different roles - the husband, the boss, the child. We can choose to be whatever role we want to play in life and often we have multiple roles per day - creating so many worlds within ourselves.