@Elmud,
xris wrote:We are not criticising the teachings of Christ but the RC church, there is a distinct difference..
Yes, there is a difference, but the question I responded to was about the teachings of Jesus and not the dogma of the Catholic Church, as Zetherin points out.
Zetherin wrote:I'm sorry, I'm not familiar. What is canon and non-canon scripture (this dummy thought there was only one!)? Do you mean revisions of the ancient scripture?
No dummy questions, friend! Canon is the scripture endorsed by a particular Church. For the most part, Christian churches share the same canon, though some differences do appear among certain denominations. Non-canonical scripture is scripture that is not accepted as canon by a particular denomination.
So, the Gospel of Mathew is canon, canon in every church still in existence. The Gospel of Thomas, or of Mary, for examples, are non-canonical in all churches still in existence.
Bones-O! wrote:I saw a documentary once on the missing gospels. Apparently there are more in existence, including a gospel according to Mary Magdalene. I've just googled it and while there is reference to its existence in many sites, they are all religious sites so I can't pin down an unbiased reference to it. I'll keep looking. Anyway, the angle of the documentary was that Mary was an apostle, and indeed the most loved by Jesus.
It is possible that Mary Magdalen was an apostle: but the whole thing is speculation. We really just do not know with any degree of certainty. Personally, the question is moot: if her Gospel speaks to you, read it and treasure it. If not, then the matter is not worth worrying over.
xris wrote:None of the gospels where written at the time of christ.There is no historical reference for jesus..The RC church decided what was relevant or factual and dismissed the rest.It was faith built from myths and stories, with no historical evidence.
Actually, the historical existence of the man Jesus is pretty well established. I am not familiar with a single modern historian, Christian or otherwise, (save an atheist who received his degree from a nonaccredited school) who argues that Jesus did not live. Can the historical existence of Jesus be doubted: sure. But when we get down to serious history, the smart money is on the claim that a man named Jesus did teach and was crucified.
Also, it was not the Roman Catholic Church that made the decision on scripture. The canon was pretty well established prior to the split between the eastern and western Church.