@boagie,
boagie wrote:
Is not what we live within a condition, is not what we are a condition, is not the cosmos itself a condition, why is it necessary to personify this said condition of the cosmos---------duh!! :nonooo: Zeus and lightning bolts -please!
The Hindu theory of
Brahman states that the Brahman is infinite and unpersonified. There is a saying,
neti neti (not this, not that) that describes Brahman: it is easier to describe what it is
not. The
Gita even has a few good riffs on it:
It is called unmanifest,
inconceivable, and immutable...2.25
but the problem with this theory is that, quite simply, it
is unpersonified; it is nigh-impossible to identify with it. Brahman may be the GUT of the Universe, the end-all and be-all, the Universe in all its forms and all universes in all their forms, and all the Forms too if they exist, it may be utterly inconceivable and indescribable, but how does this help the average person get closer to it? Answer: it doesn't. And thus devotionalism in Hinduism: the Vedic gods were reconceived as fragments of Brahman containing the whole of Brahman within them (which, not coincidentially, according to the doctrine of
atman, we are too); devotionalism allowed one to worship this personification, something one
could identify with: basically by worshipping Krishna or Shiva, Vishnu, Parvati, or Kali, among many others, one is substituting a finite and describable god in place of the ultimate and indescribable Godhead.
Now once I realized that, I realized also that the same pattern appears in Christianity: we speak of a God the Father (i.e., Jewish God), God the Son (Christ), and the Holy Spirit; in the Trinity the Holy Spirit seems to be the inspiritive force pervasive in this world, and God the Father the ultimate and totality, but by the grace of his sacrifice, Jesus acts as the intercessor between us and God (the Father); thereby he becomes God the Son--and the really amazing thing is that these are all the same ultimate being! The Trinity describes three different
aspects of God, just as the Hindu gods describe different
aspects of Brahman.
When considered in this way, it seems to become clear to me that God is both the
causer and the
caused; that is He is
both a part of existence
and the cause of existence; any finitude of existence is an aspect of God; this chair is an aspect of God; this desk is an aspect of God; this computer is an aspect of God;
we are aspects of God. And this solves your dichotomy, Alan.