@Mr Fight the Power,
Mr. Fight the Power wrote:
What is security and sustenance?
Security I would say refers to numerous things relating to feelings of safety, whether personal, communual or national. Sustenance I would say refers to such things as a roof over one's head, bread on the table, that sort of thing.
Can you tell me how they are distributed?
Products and roles relating to security and sustenance are distributed as goods, services and employment opportunities from and by a variety of outlets.
Perhaps you can direct me to the nearest security and sustenance store?
I haven't a clue what it's like round your way. My local shopping centre sells products and services (some of which are even apprently free) that sustain me and help me feel more secure. Of course the products of security and sustenance are not all similar, some are available from shops, others can be found in murky realms where hidden parts of government vie with organised crime.
Yes, people need security and sustenance, but these fields only apply because they are so broad that they are practically useless to the topic.
No. People DO look to governments to provide these things - and in order to retain power governments must either do so, or invent very convincing cover stories for why they cannot do so.
To say "they are to broad to work within the topic" seems to me to be ignoring the elephant in the room - unless you can reason how to go about reassuring people that they don't need the government to provide the most obvious things that they look to governments to provide - then I don't think you're going to do more than preach to the choir.
Prison provides both, shall government imprison us?
I don't want to be seen to run from these queries, though I suspect they are rhetorical. Governments clearly do imprison people and a lot of the reasons behind imprisonments are to do with making other people feel secure, or to secure (or control, if you like) sustenance for other people.
I would also point out that, as someone who is a proponent of anarchism, I'm pretty sure you view certain government activity as metaphorical imprisonment.
As a fan of a certain degree of government I would happily admit that living in North Korea would feel like prison to me.
All things in moderation.
I simply mean that referring to the "masses" as if they have some collective set of wants is elitist thinking that has generally lead to the problems of government so far.
You may have a point - but on the other hand to ignore that there are certain things that the vast majority of people want for themselves and/or their loved ones is naive.
While there may be some universal values, they are extremely subtle and resistant to expression and standardization.
You may know people who like having their stuff taken from them without permission, or who like to be intimidated and physically hurt. I accept that there are all manner of unusual people out there - but there is a gestalt desire for security - just as there is a gestalt desire for freedom. People compromise one with the other and governments attempt to administer this compromise, some more adroitly than others.