@Catchabula,
Catchabula wrote:Aedes, I know I pull it out of its context, but "war against war" and "fighting for peace" are a dangerous idea and even more dangerous expressions... Wage war for peace? Fight for it? Let's not confuse things, it's either war or peace.
Don't dwell on the words. Think about the ideas. If someone is waging a war of aggression and annihilation, the way to
end that is to eliminate their capacity to fight.
In the 1930s, Josef Stalin purged and executed nearly the entire leadership of the Red Army, including nearly everyone who had battlefield command experience from World War I.
In 1941, with the Nazis having pulled their diplomats out of Moscow, with German reconnaissance overflights over Soviet territory, and with more than 2 million troops and thousands of tanks on the Soviet border, Stalin
refused to believe that there was an imminent German invasion. And he refused to allow his commanders to do anything to confront it.
Not sure how well you know the history, but effectively this created a nearly complete vacuum that allowed a functionally unopposed Nazi invasion. They overran the Soviet units, took 600,000 prisoners within a few weeks (nearly all of whom died in captivity), stormed thousands of kilometers into Russia, sent out SS death squads who killed more than 1 million Jews and hundreds of thousands of others, and this invasion is the only thing that
really made the Holocaust possible, because the Nazis suddenly had 4 years to play with 8 million Jews in their occupied territories.
My point is that if nothing could be done to make Hitler
less aggressive, it was ALSO the utter ineptitude of Stalin that made the war in the East so devastating, so apocalyptic.
So I agree with you that "waging war to end a war" does not roll off the tongue like poetry, but that's not my point. It's a practical matter. You don't let a genocidal maniac run unopposed just because you oppose the principle of war. Believe me that if you look through history, no one wanted war in the 1940s except for Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. But they brought everyone down with them.