Those who see any virtue in war make me puke. And I'm not sorry!
Sorry you have lost me..how can defending ones family in war be not war but something else..the nutter at the door or the army at your borders its still war..I will be ready for war but plead for peace.
...Sometimes you need to wage war to end war. That's ok.
I believe in what I believe. What you believe is up to you.
Aedes, I know I pull it out of its context, but "war against war" and "fighting for peace" are a dangerous idea and even more dangerous expressions... Wage war for peace? Fight for it? Let's not confuse things, it's either war or peace.
Why do we still need war?
If there was no agression on the part of certain evil men we would not need war.Ide love to live in world where no weapon is ever necessary but we have to realise that men of evil only understand might and might means training to kill.It is accepted that 90% of soldiers have a natural human desire when confronted with killing to shoot above the enemies heads, they are like us all hate the idea of killing. They sacrifice alot more than their bodies when the need to kill is essential.I know a soldier who went through three years of combat being a vegetarian, he was in his opinion saving lives.
We do not need war, and you cannot prove the existence of evil or of evil men...Within certain contexts violence is natural, and should be expected... In the fashion humanity has grown out of natural communities it is inevitable that brother will at some point fight brother, but barring some outside force, or some advance of technology on one side or the other, people would soon grow sick of the killing, and seek peace and accomodation... What we have of modern war has nothing of community conflicts in it... It grows not out of necessity, out of populations competing over the same resources, but out of states and nation states preventing justice until injustice becomes international...People who can get justice from their neighbors do not seek it from strangers... And if it were a fact, that among tribal and prestate people, that violence was general, today, peace is maintained at the price of justice...Nothing is more easily perverted than law to deliver injustice instead of justice, and the universal response to injustice is population growth, leaving justice for another day while increasing those who require it...Population feeds war, and it solves for a time injustice because with less population, resources seem sufficient...If people demanded justice they would die, or those who refused justice would die; but more important, those inclined to settle their own scores would demand and defend their own freedom as people do not today... And, since they would pay the price of injustice it is they who would make it a priority...In other words people would have democracy as they did in the past... They would demand honor of each other and keep it for themselves, and in a word, they would act responsibly because they would be held responsible... Today, those who benefit from injustice do not defend their injustice, but the slaves they have made of their populations are made cannon fodder... The wealthy are freely irresponsible, and seldom bear the price of irresponsibility... Working people kill each other for the benefit of a class above them... Certainly they may benefit some from victory and suffer a defeat... But in any event, it is the wealthy who benfit and profit regardless... The fact is that no people can have democracy without equality, nor reach justice without democracy, nor know realiable peace without democracy, nor properly defend itself without democracy... War grows out of injustice and dishonor just as feud grows out of justice and honor... War is the result of what has been lost, and feud is the defense of what no man can live without... The difference is that justice is no more likely out of war than out of peace once the social tools and freedoms necessary to justice have been lost... If everyone knew their behavior toward all demanded justice, or would invite death or violence no one high or low could dare injustice; and yet we must admit that injustice is commonplace... So war is common.
you cannot prove the existence of evil or of evil men
What we have of modern war has nothing of community conflicts in it
... It grows out of states and nation states preventing justice until injustice becomes international...
War grows out of injustice and dishonor