@BrightNoon,
BrightNoon;87763 wrote:This history only reinforces my basic conviction that there are but two truly opposed political ideologies; individualism and collectivism, and collectivism has always been (despite the hope of idealistic social democrats, anarcho-communists, etc.) a game played by and for the greatest powers that be.
I like to comment on this part. This is more a philosophical notion, but the forum is the right one for it. ;-)
I agree that there are but two truly opposed political ideologies; individualism and collectivism. But my conviction is, that behind them are two worldviews or paradigms; materialism and idealism. A person for some reason either goes one or the other way at an early age. I think as a response to upbringing and society. And our political opinions are based on this base conviction of materialist or idealist.
In the classic left/right dichotomy the leftists are materialists and the rightists are idealists. But I know you don't like the classic left/right dichotomy.
It seems kind of ironic that I define collectivists to be materialists, as they apper to be driven by "noble ideas", and individualists to be idealists when they apparently are driven by profit and material concerns. But I think the materialist is only idealist on the outside and the idealist's material wealth is a result of their idealism.
It's quite a conundrum. :-)
Examples:
A persons success: A materialist would say what determines our success is the socioeconomic class we were born into, the resources we had available for getting educated, and how society treated us (discriminated against or privileged us). In other words: the material that was available to us.
An idealist would say that it is personal commitment, effort, talent, our tendency to want to solve our own problems and not give up, etc. that determine success. In other words: our ideas.
In a similar way, it's the focus on material benefits - getting stuff - that lets a person see the benefits of collectivism. While the idealistic focus on personal liberty (i.e. be able to do and think what you want) would make you a individualist.
I bet you figured out that I define myself an idealist, and in result an individualist. And I think you are too. But I fear we are on the losing side. These days people tend to have materialism as their base conviction.