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@thedoctor,

Others may want to dabble in your defensive idiocy, however, I am putting you on ignore.

I already knew you wouldn't be 1 of several million.

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@thedoctor,

thedoctor wrote:

Now this is a response!!
1. ok.. let's just say, "yes". god exists.. he is not an employee of the US mint. so can he truly make a $10 bill that isn't counterfeit? just a fun omnipotence question.. this question led to a 3 hour converstaion about the social benefits of car crashes. not sure how we got there.

Depending on ones definition of God, He would not have to 'make' anything; instead he can 'create' ex nihilo. If this is the case, and also that we assume God exists, then he can create a $10 bill that is not counterfeit. This, however, would pose some serious problems to the U.S. mint (God could make the U.S. economy tank even further by means of hyperinflation). But such a situation is by no means pertinent to any philosophical matters, or discussion.

thedoctor wrote:

2. yeah.. i don't believe in him. quotes or no.. I have not seen any evidence of anything I would put my name to. nothing to have faith in and nothing to believe in. BUT having said that even if it is some 13 year old girl posing as an older gentleman of high social stature, i am still having an on-going debate with Cicerone Imposter so I must conclude that there is something or someone at the other end that exists. right?

But clearly if you conclude that Cicerone Imposter does indeed exist, that would entail that you believe he exists, regardless of whether or not the name "Cicerone Imposter" describes a person that you believe to be someone who they are not. Unless of course, like I said, you are using 'believe' to mean something else, and not, as I presented, in the epistemological sense.

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@TickTockMan,

you're an idiot; our brains play all sorts of nasty tricks on us, nightmares and insecurities being some off-hand examples - you ought to pick a better defense next time you post to a philosophy board.

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@TickTockMan,

If the person hitting you in the face was a figment of your own imaginatinon, your experiences of both pain and pleasure might aswell be, therefor the 'pain' you thought you felt might have only been a different level of pleasure (why else would you step back into the ring every time).

Then again, if that person was a figment of your imagination, I might also be. Therefor it's not only a fact that the answer I have already given you is taken from your own experiences and formed oppinions, it's also a fact that this question has in fact been directed towards yourself, rather than towards me, seen as I'd only be your imagination and who'd ask his imagination for answers. I'd like to see yourself answer your own question. :]

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@Deftil,

Anything of merit can become theory but cannot be proven. Nothing in our world cam be proven scientifically. God is a supernatural being. Therefore, we cannot test his existence, because he cannot be falsified because we do not have the means to do so. The only thing science can test is that of natural world.

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@Codeia,

And do you know what that ultimately means, I wonder ??? it means that we only can test what we observe... what we observe is that which immediately takes an effect upon us...your "God" is out of scope here...if he comes to speak to you one of this days call us and we will measure it....until there good luck in playing with your mind legos...

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@Codeia,

God is a supernatural being, because that's how men created him. Miracles here, miracles there, and the creation of this planet in six days. According to biblical scholars, the age of this planet is about 7,000 years old. According to science, this planet is 4.5 billion years old.

Bible = myths, not reality.

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if there is a god

then I would put upon the table a 40oz of any booze , or two , and discuss gods mistakes and the devils as well

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@Victor Eremita,

Nothing doesn't exist in and of itself. Without something, there could never be nothing. Nothing is simply the absence of something. Therefore, without something, nothing wouldn't even be possible. So there always has to be something before there can be nothing.

You WILL live based on your own subjective mores that you may have conjured up for yourself to keep you happy (or at least content). However, there is absolute truth. You should live in such a way as to find that truth. Opinions only count for so much, but they in no way affect absolute truth.

Like in my previous answer, your subjectivity in no way affects reality. It doesn't matter what color you THINK your computer is. It IS one color or a set of colors and your opinion on those colors doesn't impact the actual colors in any way. Therefore, your imagination, though it may impact your thoughts and behaviors greatly, do not affect the world around you....i.e. - me. you can imagine I am here or not here. That is completely up to you. It does not change the FACT that I am here.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

God is a supernatural being, because that's how men created him. Miracles here, miracles there, and the creation of this planet in six days. According to biblical scholars, the age of this planet is about 7,000 years old. According to science, this planet is 4.5 billion years old.

Bible = myths, not reality.

I would not go so far as to say that reality is a state of mind when the mind has hardly been proved real. The mind is a name we give to a certain situation, and this is true also of reality, and the fact that the situation is shared in our beliefs, and accepted by us gives it the sense of reality, and makes it a form of relationship... What people believe true they will always say is real... What is real for people, and gives to all things their sense of reality is the most unreal quality imaginable, and that is the life within them that cannot fully be explained with religion or science, though each may conceive of it metaphorically...

What ever people may think of God, they often find that they are the ears and eyes, and the hands and feet of God... Where they go God goes, and what they miss, God also misses... They may be able to find a million reasons why they need God, but when pressed cannot find a single reason why God needs them, if God is what they take God to be... The element of need between a master and a slave gives to the slave some element of freedom and democracy... What we seek, and have always sought from God, that is, power over God, the power of God we can wield for our own purposes depends upon the most unlikely condition, of God needing us, and what are the chances of that???

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@Awatts84,

Awatts84 wrote:

Nothing doesn't exist in and of itself. Without something, there could never be nothing. Nothing is simply the absence of something. Therefore, without something, nothing wouldn't even be possible. So there always has to be something before there can be nothing.

You WILL live based on your own subjective mores that you may have conjured up for yourself to keep you happy (or at least content). However, there is absolute truth. You should live in such a way as to find that truth. Opinions only count for so much, but they in no way affect absolute truth.

Like in my previous answer, your subjectivity in no way affects reality. It doesn't matter what color you THINK your computer is. It IS one color or a set of colors and your opinion on those colors doesn't impact the actual colors in any way. Therefore, your imagination, though it may impact your thoughts and behaviors greatly, do not affect the world around you....i.e. - me. you can imagine I am here or not here. That is completely up to you. It does not change the FACT that I am here.

You are correct... Nothing doesn't exist...

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@Fido,

better...Nothing is not existent nor non existent...that way ones gives the impression it existed and then ceased to exist...what are we talking about anyway ? loool ! Very Happy

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So what if chaoS is the normal flow of the society? and doing good is the abnormal one?
Everything that exists and has label/name are defined by Man, if not everything would be meaningless...
God created the world but Man give essence to it.
Creations define and give essence to their Creator.
What if everything is just a dream?

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@macolete,

I like the part where our existence is a dream, and we can dream "in it."

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@Awatts84,

Quote:

there always has to be something before there can be nothing.

Is it even possible to have nothing? I would not think so!
I think that nothing is a man made concept that does not exist, it is used to explain the things that we can not detect or understand in a satisfying way. I am sure that I could be wrong.

Not exactly relevant but something to think about! 2 Cents

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@Victor Eremita,

So you imagine a world, to live in it and abide in it like the rest of your pigments of imagination without a special privilege? And if so, wouldn't that make you a God, contradicting your belief as a christian, or atheist because you yourself would be God. And if you were God of your imagination, wouldn't self realization give you control of your imaginary world??

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@Gi3nluca,

Not the case that I am defending his position but who told you "God" is free ???

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@Deftil,

if light is wave in its natural state, but a particle when we gaze upon it, and if given that it exists everywhere at once, and we are unable to appreciate that state, and that 96% of the known universe is unknown and arbitrarilly named dark matter or energy, why did you call yourself Deftil?

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@Victor Eremita,

ok genius, explain Schrodinger's Cat

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@Victor Eremita,

The response is another question:

"What would be de difference?"

What is a figment of my imagination? It has no sense to me.

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