Battlestar Existentia

Are you talking about battlestar galactica? Cause that show is awesome. The moral implications are very abstract and enlightening. The idea of providing the cylons with a consciousness is interesting. And how a cylon's mind is immortal and unique compared to what a robot's would normally be. The mind has a conscience and a profound understanding of humanity's morality. I've always questioned why the cylons would come to the conclusion that humanity was needed to be destroyed. God's will seems to be a part of their equation which immediately places the cylons as insane. The cylons say that Caprica is not a part of God's will but since when should the will of God be the only one to exist. God's will is transcendent and the implication of transcendence is what divides true conscience from a fake one. The cylons lack that understanding and are therefore inferior to the humans, regardless of their logical advantages.

Holiday, you have some really good observations on Galactica! It's one of the more abstract series I've ever seen on television. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people in particular shy away from the series purely because it has the "science fiction" genre attached to it and the stigma of something "uncool" as compared to "high school musical" which is apparently cool albeit in an odd way), they still grapple with their own constitution for being. The absence of that cold, precise logic which one would usually attribute to artificial intelligence is noticeably lacking. This seems to make them more human in a way. But that's kinda the question then, isn't it? A human is a machine in many if not all senses of the word. They both have flesh and blood (most of them anyway)

I was never really 'cool':cool:, :whistling:.

I like how in BSG there is the political aspect too, like the presidency, and martial law.

My favourite part so far from what I've seen (I'm renting them, still on season 2, so don't tell me anything like who the 12 agents all are) is when the Pegasus and Galactica send the vipers at each other and are at the verge of destroying each other. Then when Starbuck jumps in and scans as an unidentified object on the radar she could potentially be a cylon (though I think she is:detective:). The vipers go from potentially killing eachother to allying as one to take on 1 puny cylon ship.

It was interesting that Gaius never had the chip in his head. I was certain he would, but I have just one question. Is Gaius insane? Simply yes or no answer, no elaboration plz, that would just be pure evil. :devilish:

Oh, he's not insane... I'd tell you more, but that would be cruel.

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c.Season 4 episodes 1-10 (at the top of the highest seed list)

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Allow for days to download:lol:

Also, you know how when a cylon dies the conscience will download on to another body, making the agent's mind immortal in a sense. Imagine the wireless feed you'd need for that.:shocked:
I guess the cylons learned how to harness the power of quantum entanglement or something like that.

I'm at the part when the chief is suspected by the priest of being a cylon. I suppose he is. It came as a real shock though. What I can't wait to find out is how the cylons got the sleeper agents in the first place.

:a-thought:It is interesting how the cylons decided to make human versions of themselves, if perhaps there was some other reason besides the stealth aspect. Maybe they want to be human. And when Starbuck was at the 'farm' the cylons wanted to create life between them and the humans. Do they think that there would be a super race or something that should exist holding the potential of a cylon and a human.

For now I'm just going to watch more BSG!!!:popcorn:

I've found that an interesting quirk about the series, a slight against religious dogma perhaps, is that it's the Cylons that believe in a creator God. It's sort of like the writers are saying that someone would have to be a machine to believe in God, or perhaps they're simply insinuating that to follow after such dogma with a Cylon-like conviction, (especially like the 6's and the 2's) would be to willfully turn ourselves into machines. But there's tonnes of underlying philosophical messages in BSG; this is just one. Anyway, it's my favorite tv show by far.

In fleet maneuvers, the battleship Existentia was always put at the head, and its sister ship Essentia had to fall in line behind it, or as Sartre wrote, Existentia preceeds Essentia.

which wouldst thou prescribe someone start with? the original miniseries, or the seasons 1-3 + razor?

You definitely have to start with the miniseries. It forms the basis of the rest of the series. You can watch starting at season one if you want, but I think you will not be clued into what is happening. I thought the miniseries was very well done.

I think I said this before, but I first got into the series by watching the razor episode over the internet... and I was hooked. totally independent from the series, but it comes in later in the series.

Yeah, BSG is a series that needs to be seen from the beginning to be fully appreciated. The plot is evolved and dynamic, so, although one can undoubtedly enjoy a later season show without knowledge of prior episodes, it's most enjoyed when taken in context to the overall series. But wherever you decide to begin watching, I think you'll enjoy it regardless.