The simple act of observation can affect reality; indifferent or objective.
In a quantum physics experiment done at the Weizmann Inst., studying light/electrons' ability to behave both as particles and waves, they discovered a very interesting result: electrons could only behave as waves if they are not observed. The simple act of observation forced an electron to behave as a particle.
http://glenavalon.com/observation01.html
The ironic thing to me is that this could not have been found out without observation.
Perhaps the lesson in this is that the subjects are to learn as much about themselves as they do about the objects they are observing.
The ironic thing to me is that this could not have been found out without observation.
Perhaps the lesson in this is that the subjects are to learn as much about themselves as they do about the objects they are observing.
Isa,
I think this just underlines the fact that a complete objectivity is not possiable. For many people objectivity means complete non-involvement, no emotional investment. I think objectivity means observation from a safe emotional distance, not that care is not there at all, which would make it indifference.
The "observation" was done by an electronic device--very indifferent to the outcome.
And I think this underscores the fact that some things can only be understood/discovered by observation.
Kennethamy,
What are you talking about, Brother? Things can be objectively true, but only subjectively known to be true. There is no meaning to the objective/physical world that the subject does not give it. Kennethamy, did you just pull the term brother out of the air, you seemed to be challenging me with a term you thought I had misused?:eek:
What is objectively true can only be subjectively known. The object in question does not know what you think of it.
Boagie,
Let me through this into the mix.
On what are you basing the statement that "the object in question does not know what you think of it?" The experiment done at the Weizmann Inst. may indicate that at some level object reality is aware of the subject observer.
Also, does it really make a truth less objectively true just because it can only be subjectively known?
Also, does it really make a truth less objectively true just because it can only be subjectively known?
This is hardly so much of a novelty, to learn as much about ourselves as we do about the World we thought we knew . The doctrine otherwise arrived at is known as "karma", or in pyschological terms, "projection".
"This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man."
(Hamlet, Act I, scene 3,)
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Obviously enough, an objective truth that can only be be subjectively known is an oxymoron.
The objective truth is a belief, not a truth
"Objective" means "believe this or else"
"Subjective means, "go away, your opinion is not convenient"
Sophisticated abuse.
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Obviously enough, an objective truth that can only be be subjectively known is an oxymoron.
The objective truth is a belief, not a truth
"Objective" means "believe this or else"
"Subjective means, "go away, your opinion is not convenient"
Sophisticated abuse.
