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Though I do have a tendency to want to fill in what may seem to be planks with preconceived notions and my own ideas. From where I have to see, if it says it, it says it, if it don't, it don't, I have to rely on this. When there is question or speculation of scripture.
If I may ask, why the study of religions on the earth? I admit, in some cases I wish I had done the same.
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TwilightEyes
Just for the record, Cain was marked so no one would want to slay him for the curse, if anybody did so. That did not mean that Cain was restricted to the land of Nod, only that he lived there and built a city. He could have traveled anywhere and found a wife for the mark that was on him. And it never said, the land of Nod is where he found a wife.
Just for grins, what if the truth is the other side of the coin. If researchers classify mankind as primates, who is to say that what is found is not an extinct primate, which does not necessarily prove them to be mankind. Adam and Eve where made to live according to what God tells them, that is what makes them and us Man, not otherwise.
And the Lord's day is what He said and He did and He saw that it was good, not sunrise and sunset. According to Genesis there was no sun and moon and such until after the third day.
Let me throw this one at you. If the Lord says that a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day. It could be; There are 365,000 days in a thousand years. And each one of those 365,000 days are like a thousand years, so on and so forth. And of corse visa versa. That would mean any amount of time desired to accomplish what is said and done, and to see that it is good. A day of the Lord. Not our's, His.
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Justin
roofing is not one my favorite jobs, hope it went well.
(Once again I apologize for posting scripture)
On religion and or dogma, you have seen my postings on the " in the Kingdom of God there is no religion" so you can be assured that we agree on that. I myself, will do my best to refrain from bad mouthing the church, but I don't dispute your sentiment toward the church, or those who proclaim themselves christians and have no Truth in Spirit in them. However, God gives to man, and what man does with that God gives him, he must answer to God for. Which is true in all cases of mankind's relationship to, or with, God, man's Maker.
I don't have to answer to God for what they may do and say but I do have to answer to God for that which I do or say. There are times when that is liberating, and there are times when one feels like a red faced 5 yr old setting in corner for a time out.
Give it some thought, all is given, though still owned by the giver (God). All is the property of God. No one can take anything from Him. All power is given by God though it is still God's power, even the power to think or love or feel or do or say are God's power given. And for what purpose? God's will be done. Why should it be for any other will? If man loves after what makes him feel good or feel good about himself more then what pleases his Maker, then what should the Maker do about it? If man lives to please himself then surly he does not please his Creator.
Unless he loves his Creator more then himself. And that Love even has to come from God for all is from God. The mercy of God is to allow repentance. Angels can't repent, if they rebel they are cast down into outer darkness with extreme prejudice. But unto man He gives mercy. Why, because He Loves mankind, and has given mankind the capacity to Love Him as Father.
What is born of flesh is condemned only because that which it is born of is condemned by the Word of God to Adam and Eve. But that which is born of God's Spirit lives for ever. Therefore in reference to "as Jesus taught"
(I am only making ref. so you see for yourself that I am not feeding you a bunch of horse dump.)
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In reference to repentance :
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Mt:4:17: From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mt:9:13: But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Lk:13:3: I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.(this one should be read in context)
see John Chapter 3
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God the Father is only known through and in Jesus.
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Jn:14:6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jn:4:23: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Jn:6:44: No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jn:6:45: It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Jn:10:15: As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
Jn:14:10: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Jn:15:26: But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
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John 10
7: Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8: All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9: I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
10: The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11: I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Amongst other things, These are the things Jesus taught, and I refer to John as much as possible because he was considered a beloved of the Lord which the others attested to, and he was there with the Lord, from John the Baptist on.
Man is made to do God's will in the earth by hearing His Word, therefore responsible to God. For the earth is God's possession, and the power to do God's will, is also God's power. If man does his own will with that which is intrusted to him by God then wouldn't that be considered treasonous? I mean man does agree to live on the face of the earth, does he not? Then if so, then repentance is required. And said by God to man that man can receive His Mercy.
Note: what I meant by weak was weak in the sense of the world as in powerless or handicapped.
What I understand your referring to is, ones who seek to feel good or be self righteous, rather than seek the Truth no matter what the Truth is.
Resentment toward anybody or anything can blind you to the Truth. For resentment fosters self justifying wrath, which is usually based on blame, rather then understanding mercy through repentance. Me know this.
And yes I know this is all off subject, sorry about that. you can shoot me later.