Whatever happened to suave? to charming?

a girlfriend at the time

best part, other friends who were there loved the look (i stole from David Letterman, it was the 80's after all)

worst part, girlfriend spent along time looking for her dress, found one she thought was pretty unique that she liked, girl sitting at next table (right behind us) had the same dress, bad night for her

Were the sneakers white?

I suppose I should add that charming has become suspect over the years, oft for good reason.

yep

And... the suit?

a dark charcoal grey (with an almost invisible burgundy vertical stripe) double breasted, white shirt, burgundy tie

shoes were white leather reeboks with three dark red (almost burgundy stripes)

Aha, so the burgundy matched. And the white shirt.

i took the shoes with me to buy the suit, guys at the store were laughing but helped pull it all together

Was this the 80s?

yeah, i edited an earlier post, i guess you missed it

No, no, no . . . I don't want to look like the 30s, 40s and, especially not, the 50s!
My late mother-in-law always wanted me to wear my bangs short, like Claudette Colbert. As beautiful as she was, those bangs were awful.

I never like "retro" fashion . . . although I do like to put on a little Kate Hepburn now and then.

I did miss it. Had to be the 80s. Or, well, maybe not.

i'm guessing new years '85 into '86 (or '86 into '87)

good times (what i remember of them )

Yeah, but here in MA, that is what people do: hold doors for each other. Men, women, children . . . everyone holds doors for everyone else.

I just think it would be nice to have dinner with a man who doesn't sip my wine, screw up his face and say, "Yuck." Or a man who comes home with a bottle of California jug chablis because I tell him I like whites from Burgundy.

On the other hand, one definition of sophistication is common sense. When you think about it, common sense does make a nice synonym for sophistication because sophistication implies knowing how things work.

You guys appear to be having a good time.

Interesting.

I'm not inclined to stand back to let the man reach the door to the mall first, or to have him lope ahead to beat me to it, so he can open it for me, when we want to get some icemaker thing at sears. (We've had this argument on a2k already.)
Often we will walk together, and then fine with his holding the door.

Of course, I open doors for other people. It's the idea that I have to wait til a guy opens it for me that is now bizarre but popular in my youth.

Re: door handling.

I also open if I am there first, accept if it's held open for me, hold open for others on occasion....

My issue is with the young'ns I work with. Most kids will hold it open as they go inside until I have caught the door behind them, some kids will hold the door back and let me pass first (which I think is sweet, but a bit silly), some just let the door close in my face - without that behind the back push so I can catch the door. That last one pisses me off. It sort of exemplifies the entitled, self-absorbed-ness of the population I work with.

I think I might have lied about only ever wearing a suit once. (To a funeral.)
I just remembered I got married in one. (& a stylish, way too expensive little number it was, too!)
I also vaguely remember a cute little min-skirted suit from my teens, worn with my favourite hot pink, flower-patterned tights!
So I guess we all had our suave moments, at some stage ....

Well, that seems very annoying..