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What is your fundamental moral compass?

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 05:20 am
@Ionus,
If the Tooth Fairy exists in another universe,
then he does not exist in your town,
but does he not exist at all?

If he is in another universe,
then it seems to me that he exists.





David
Eorl
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 03:07 pm
@Ionus,
By that logic, my grandmother existed before Neptune.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 06:30 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
The definition if existence IS this universe.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 06:31 pm
@Eorl,
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By that logic, my grandmother existed before Neptune.
You lost me....perhaps you could explain ?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 09:58 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:
The definition if existence IS this universe.
That seems rather arbitrary. Y do u so confine it? Convenience?
If so, then Y not confine it to your own town?

For your better convenience, Y not confine it to a radius of ten feet of u?





David
Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 10:17 pm
@Robert Gentel,
What is my ultimate criteria?
What is my golden rule?
What is my personal moral code?

To maximize the potential for Mankind's long term survival
dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 10:23 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
universe=everything that exists anywhere.
doesn't seem, to me, confining. How is it David that you do?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 10:29 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:
universe=everything that exists anywhere.
doesn't seem, to me, confining. How is it David that you do?
Apparently, it has been re-defined to include alternate realities
in alternate dimensions which, it looks like, really do exist,
superimposed invisibly upon our own, according to experts in Quantum Mechanics.

This explains how a photon or an electron or a man can be in 2 places at once.
There r plausible, quantum based, mathematical theories
of an infinite number (is that an oxymoron?) of alternate universes.





David
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 10:59 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
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The definition of existence IS this universe.That seems rather arbitrary.
Y do u so confine it? Convenience?
If so, then Y not confine it to your own town?
For your better convenience, Y not confine it to a radius of ten feet of u?
I dont confine it so...the definition of existence is based on effect and interrelationships within this universe. If something has no effect whatsoever on anything in this universe, has no chance of being observable before after or during any process in this universe, then it does not exist.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 11:01 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
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This explains how a photon or an electron or a man can be in 2 places at once.
There r plausible, quantum based, mathematical theories
of an infinite number (is that an oxymoron?) of alternate universes.
That is not science. That is philosophy.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 01:28 am
@Ionus,
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This explains how a photon or an electron or a man can be in 2 places at once.
There r plausible, quantum based, mathematical theories
of an infinite number (is that an oxymoron?) of alternate universes.
Ionus wrote:
That is not science. That is philosophy.
No. Quantum Mechanics are adroit at explaining the microcosm.





David
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 08:46 am
@Eorl,
Eorl wrote:

By that logic, my grandmother existed before Neptune.
Laughing The contortions this idiot is going through will make it impossible to sustain a personality. I wonder who he was last time.(?)
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 11:18 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

Quote:
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The definition of existence IS this universe.That seems rather arbitrary.
Y do u so confine it? Convenience?
If so, then Y not confine it to your own town?
For your better convenience, Y not confine it to a radius of ten feet of u?
I dont confine it so...the definition of existence is based on effect and interrelationships within this universe. If something has no effect whatsoever on anything in this universe, has no chance of being observable before after or during any process in this universe, then it does not exist.
Here we see the problem with talking completely out of your ass. Neither you, nor anyone else can possibly know what will or won't be observable in the future. You continue to make a fool out of yourself by pretending to have knowledge you couldn't possibly have. And lots of things continue to exist, regardless of whether or not some know-it-all moron is capable of knowing about it.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 11:24 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Science began as philosophy and then the two separated and now they are coming back together.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 04:50 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
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The contortions this idiot is going through will make it impossible to sustain a personality. I wonder who he was last time.(?)
Ohhh poor billy boy...the proctologist cant see you till WHEN ?? Your next boyfriend is coming today ?? How awful...now wonder you are lashing out over an unemotional topic...it must be hell for you...thank God they dont allow you in the army.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 04:56 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
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Here we see the problem with talking completely out of your ass.
Here I can tell you are from the USA. Kick arse, putt a cap in your arse, your arse is mine, get your arse over here....what in God's name is wrong with you men ? Are you all frustrated homosexuals or just toilet trained with a chainsaw at the age on six months ? Seek help, billy boy...
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Neither you, nor anyone else can possibly know what will or won't be observable in the future.
You are going to love this magic trick then, dickhead....put a cloth over a glass...where did it go ??? I could have told you it wouldnt be observable in the future, but you brainless wouldnt have understood.
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You continue to make a fool out of yourself by pretending to have knowledge you couldn't possibly have.
You are confusing my knowledge with your lack thereof..
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And lots of things continue to exist, regardless of whether or not some know-it-all moron is capable of knowing about it.
Now sweety, dont be a bitch....the definition of existence is this universe only.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 05:03 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
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No. Quantum Mechanics are adroit at explaining the microcosm.
There are no alternate universes. There has been a serious effort to attach the religious part of the human mind to science. The alternate realties is based on the variables in quatum particle theory. If you go looking for the mass of a particle it can not be predicted where it is. Thats it. Thats the whole basis.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 11:35 pm
@Ionus,
David wrote:
No. Quantum Mechanics are adroit at explaining the microcosm.
Ionus wrote:
There are no alternate universes.
I surmise that u have checked them all,
to make sure that thay do not exist.


Ionus wrote:
There has been a serious effort to attach the religious part of the human mind to science.
Does that putative effort impair the abilities of other universes to exist??



Ionus wrote:
The alternate realties is based on the variables in quatum particle theory.
If you go looking for the mass of a particle it can not be predicted where it is. Thats it. Thats the whole basis.
Your point being what?

Particles are posited to exist in more than one place at the same time.





David
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 06:55 am
@OmSigDAVID,
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I surmise that u have checked them all, to make sure that thay do not exist.
You know no-one can prove a negative, but there is no proof of another universe existing - if there was it would be a distant part of this universe.
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Does that putative effort impair the abilities of other universes to exist??
It does advocate caution to a reasonable person.
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Particles are posited to exist in more than one place at the same time.
No, they dont. Light is not a particle, it can behave like a particle. The whole particle theory is based on finding mass through experiments that determine things about mass....momentum, location....unfortunately we have reached a level or reality where everything we hold dear in this level is false. Solidity, mass...these are illusions at the atomic level carried into that world by our prejudices of this one.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 07:06 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:
...unfortunately we have reached a level or reality where everything we hold dear in this level is false. Solidity, mass...these are illusions at the atomic level carried into that world by our prejudices of this one.
Your recognition of this suggests that u shoud respect Quantum Mechanics.





David
 

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