I guess I'm expressing a great deal less reluctance then.
While I think there are many reasons to understand the actions of these soldiers, and I am very reluctant to condemn them, I also think there is no reason to hold these kids as any less responsible than German soldiers were held at Nuremberg.
All manner of outrages occur in war, and I truly wonder to what extent the American kids in the video truly realise that they are not playing goddam video games, I think we still need to draw some lines. This looks a hell of a lot like one of them.
I actually thought my truthful observations might be helpful in adding to understanding.
There was another aspect to dyslexia's post. The behavior is not being excused, but the ultimate responsibility for the behavior of soldiers is directed elsewhere.
I would never excuse this atrocious behavior nor have I excused my own behavior in war. That does not mean I don't have some understanding of it. as someone else once said "It must make sense, it has to make sense whether I understand it or not because if it doesn't make sense I can't live with myself"
It's interesting to consider the extent to which understanding should lead to excusing. I tend to find the more I understand the more i WANT to excuse.
So..in your opinion, what, if anything, should happen as a result of what happened in the video?
Many others were outraged not at Calley's guilty verdict, but that he was the only one within the chain of command who was convicted. At the Winter Soldier Investigation in Detroit organized by Vietnam Veterans Against the War January 31-February 2, 1971, veterans including 1st Lt. William Crandell of the 199th Light Infantry Brigade, Americal Division expressed their outrage:
"We intend to tell who it was that gave us those orders; that created that policy; that set that standard of war bordering on full and final genocide. We intend to demonstrate that My Lai was no unusual occurrence, other than, perhaps, the number of victims killed all in one place, all at one time, all by one platoon of us. We intend to show that the policies of Americal Division which inevitably resulted in My Lai were the policies of other Army and Marine Divisions as well. We intend to show that war crimes in Vietnam did not start in March 1968, or in the village of Son My or with one Lt. William Calley. We intend to indict those really responsible for My Lai, for Vietnam, for attempted genocide."
William Calley apologizes for My Lai massacre
Quote:WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad -- including two Reuters news staff. Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-site, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded. For further information please visit the special project website www.collateralmurder.com.
Full video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is9sxRfU-ik
Around 8 minutes into that video, hearing those soliders beg to engage the wounded (clearly itching to kill them) and those tending to the wounded is simply disgusting. Seeing them do it, just blow them away, is chilling.
A lot of folks in the military make me sick, listen to those soldiers saying "their fault for bringing their kids to battle" when they are feverishly imagining weapons and indiscriminately killing people who pose no threat to them. They were begging to shoot unarmed people, these folk disgust me and that they get away with it (or get a tiny slap on the wrist) just about every time is depressing.