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Controvertial "Proof" of Multiverse!

 
 
Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 03:48 pm
@littlek,
littlek wrote:

Wowsa!

A massive river of galaxies is headed from well within the boundaries of the universe towards one edge of it. It is flowing faster (or in a more unified direction, at least) than the general expansion of the universe. The theory is that the flow is headed towards something which was pushed outside of the universe, perhaps at the time of the big bang.

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.... In 2008 scientists reported the discovery of hundreds of galaxy clusters streaming in the same direction at more than 2.2 million miles (3.6 million kilometers) an hour.

This mysterious motion can't be explained by current models for distribution of mass in the universe. So the researchers made the controversial suggestion that the clusters are being tugged on by the gravity of matter outside the known universe.

Now the same team has found that the dark flow extends even deeper into the universe than previously reported: out to at least 2.5 billion light-years from Earth.

After using two additional years' worth of data and tracking twice the number of galaxy clusters, "we clearly see the flow, we clearly see it pointing in the same direction," said study leader Alexander Kashlinsky, an astrophysicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.

"It looks like a very coherent flow."

The find adds to the case that chunks of matter got pushed outside the known universe shortly after the big bang"which in turn hints that our universe is part of something larger: a multiverse....
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/03/100322-dark-flow-matter-outside-universe-multiverse/?source=link_fb03232010


And they came to that conclusion from they saw through a single dimension telescope - Amazing!!
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HesDeltanCaptain
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 07:36 am
@littlek,
Have this linked and have written about it as well. It's definitely a Mr. Spock raised eyebrow thing. Smile
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brianjakub
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2016 05:34 pm
@littlek,
We can't observe the space inside of atoms as well as the space that might be outside our universe that this river is flowing to. Could that mean the inside of each atom is a universe of its own, thus providing us with embedded multiverses?
astral
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2016 05:51 pm
@littlek,
Multiverse is a mistake. Quantum physics need to realize, that behavior of electrons depends on the act of observation, which requires the CONCIOUSNESS. Universe is a fractal, which generate itself in real-time, using the endless process of information exchange...
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astral
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2016 05:55 pm
@brianjakub,
As Above, So Below - ancient civilisations knew, that Universe is a FRACTAL. Everything depends on the scale - for example time dilation. From the perspective of a human, insects move very fast - but from perspective of an insect we move very slow From the perspective of atom, 'our' time doesn't matter at all...
Universe is an assembly of fields within fields, within fields, within fields... into infinty
brianjakub
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2016 10:37 pm
@astral,
How do you know this especially going to infinity? I didn't think infinities are possible in physics.
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Goliathus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Nov, 2016 05:28 pm
It can mean anything though
brianjakub
 
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Reply Fri 15 Dec, 2017 08:32 am
@Goliathus,
It can mean only one thing, we just have to figure out what that one thing is.
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kadenpradhan
 
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Reply Mon 8 Jan, 2018 02:20 am
@rosborne979,
@rosborne979,
I agree with you. Probably the author
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Love2Love
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jun, 2018 08:56 pm
How can a multiverse exist? It's all the universe, hence the name.
brianjakub
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2018 05:42 pm
@Love2Love,
Any space that is contained with boundaries where the particles contained inside those boundaries cannot tell the particles on the other side of those boundaries exist is by definition a universe as stated in definition 2 in the following.

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Definition of universe
1 : the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated : cosmos: such as
a : a systematic whole held to arise by and persist through the direct intervention of divine power
b : the world of human experience
c (1) : the entire celestial cosmos (2) : milky way galaxy (3) : an aggregate of stars comparable to the Milky Way galaxy
2 : a distinct field or province of thought or reality that forms a closed system or self-inclusive and independent organization
3 : population 4
4 : a set that contains all elements relevant to a particular discussion or problem
5 : a great number or quantity
a large enough universe of stocks … to choose from —G. B. Clairmont


By that definition an atom could be a universe since we can only detect the boundary of the atom (electron cloud) and cannot observe the interior of the atom because inside that boundary is a separate universe. Some postulate that space can be broken down into smaller universes that are two particle (antiparticle-particle strings that are one dimensional universes) called string theory. The higgs mechanism is how the universe inside the atom interacts with the universe outside the atom if all of space is made up of these multiple unverses constructed of strings.

I would suggest that a higgs boson is made up of two of these strings and is a four particle universe containing two intertwined two particle universes. But, that would require a lot of order and, the initiation of such universal order is hard to explain by purely natural causes (even though it solves a lot of problems by creating while creating that initiation problem).

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Jewels Vern
 
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Reply Wed 20 Mar, 2019 09:20 am
It's not a theory. A theory is based on an observation. If you haven't observed something, it's fiction.

Proposing an alternate universe is the same as proposing creation: it is unscientific by definition.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Wed 20 Mar, 2019 09:50 am
@Jewels Vern,
Jewels Vern wrote:

It's not a theory. A theory is based on an observation. If you haven't observed something, it's fiction.

Proposing an alternate universe is the same as proposing creation: it is unscientific by definition.

Wouldn't it be a hypothesis?
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hypothesis noun
hy·​poth·​e·​sis | \ hī-ˈpä-thə-səs
\
plural hypotheses\ hī-​ˈpä-​thə-​ˌsēz
\
1a : an assumption or concession made for the sake of argument

b : an interpretation of a practical situation or condition taken as the ground for action

2 : a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences

3 : the antecedent clause of a conditional statement
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Jewels Vern
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 11:09 pm
"At it's most basic level, science is supposed to represent the investigation of the unexplained, not the explanation of the uninvestigated."
~ Hunt for the Skinwalker (2018)
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