Congrats USA! Health care for all!! ??

There really are people who think they will be getting free treatment. Not because they've been told that, but just because it sounds right.

The U.S. has also provided military welfare for most of the free world for decades and that is and has been expensive.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

As far as I am concerned, I don't give a rat's ass about the whole thing. I will probably not be around twenty years from now.

I feel sorry for the young people who think that they will be getting something for nothing. I have visions of the medical profession degrading into mediocrity, as the best and the brighest young people will stay away from medicine like the plague. Who wants to be told what to do by a bunch of self serving bureaucrats?

I am appalled that people who have paid for expensive medical coverage will be taxed, so that people who have put little into the system will be covered.

Remember, if the government taxes to give services to people who do not give their share to the economy, the money has to come from somewhere. And guess where that money will come from?

Be afraid..................be very afraid. This is only the beginning!

"There will be no cooperation for the rest of the year," McCain said.

There will be no cooperation for the rest of the year," McCain said during an interview Monday on an Arizona radio affiliate. "They have poisoned the well in what they've done and how they've done it."

I've heard that the USA spends more per person than any other country on healthcare

I'm glad it passed only because it means politicians will now have to really work on it and make it into something that might be useful. It keeps the problem in the light. If it had failed, the whole topic would have been locked back in the Whitehouse basement for another 20 years while the current system continued to implode.

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The U.S. has also provided military welfare for most of the free world for decades and that is and has been expensive.

In the last 3 decades the US has sold more arms around the world than all the other countries combined.
Many times the sale of arms to one country has necessitated the giving away of arms to its opponent.

The Taliban were blessed with Stinger missiles by the American taxpayers in order to fight the Red menace which was already bankrupt and in its death throes. Now the American taxpayer is paying for weapons and a war to fight our former allies, the Taliban

Listen to how Ike warned us:

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This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

In the last 3 decades one boogey man has followed another. Once the Russian bear was vanquished a new boogey man had to be found: The war on terrorists fit the bill.

No wonder Ionus is scratching his head. All these years he had no idea we were spending so much money to protect our Aussie cousins that we could not even take care of our own poor and sick.