Ionus wrote:
Quote:The Beatles, as the Quarry Men, were formed in 1956 by John Lennon. Paul joined in 1957. George joined in 1958. Ringo, didn't join until 1963 when they were already the most famous rock band in England, although he had sat in a few times before when drummer Pete Best was unavailable.
I was aware of all this, but I am sure some will find it interesting. I certainly dont see how it contradicts anything I said.
Quote:Neil Aspinall was the driver. Someone else may have driven a few times,
This is an assumption. It seems more reasonable they took it in turns, if only for the sake of getting to sit in a seat, let alone safety from the point of view of driver fatigue.
It's documented far and wide around Beatles fandom. I am not saying that no one else ever drove, but Neil's initial job was to be the driver. They never drove to gigs in a van owned by Ringo, and they certainly didn't hire him on that basis. Ringo wasn't a member in the early days. They hired Ringo after George Martin suggested that Best wasn't good enough, because they had been thinking along those lines themselves. They hired him because he was the best drummer they knew, and because they got along well with him.
Ionus wrote:
Quote:but Ringo wasn't even a member of the group then.
I have agreed to Ringo replacing Best. Stating what we have agreed on makes you seem desperate. Can you provide a source to say they only ever had one van and they never got another one ?
Not saying that, although they used that van for a long time in the early days. I'm saying that you are incorrect when you state that Ringo was hired largely so that they could use a van, car, or truck of his. This is false, and, if you disagree, just post a link.
Ionus wrote:
Quote:The red and white van they were driven in belonged to Aspinall. Aspinall had purchased it for 8 pounds.
Again, I was aware of this, but I presume you include it for the information of others.
I included it to add detail to my statement that it wasn't Ringo's.
Ionus wrote:
Quote:Paul played the drums on "The Ballad of John and Yoko" only because Ringo wasn't in town.
And you think that was the only occasion ?
There may have been a later occasion towards the end of their time together when Ringo left the group in disgust for a brief while, but if you claim that Paul used to sneak back into the studio to re-record Ringo's part's, you need to provide a link, as I have never heard any such thing, and it contradicts my information that Ringo's work was well thought of.
Ionus wrote:
Quote:I need you to post a link to support the story that Paul used to sneak back into the studio and re-record Ringo's parts.
Perhaps you didnt read what I said so I will post it again ..."I will return to this topic with a reference and I apologise for any delay."
Quote:Don't assure me that it's true, just post a link.
I am not assuring you of anything. It is reasonable to want a reference. I was further explaining my position.
Get me a reference for the idea that Paul used to re-record Ringo's work.
