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Random thoughts from the moose cave.

 
 
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 07:14 am
@Rockhead,
Sunrise!?

who are you and what have you done with Rocky?

overcast here, no sunrise, more of a spread of light
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 07:16 am
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
also got some soy milk. meh...


I've heard rumours (completely untested) that some of the flavoured soy milk isn't dreadful and that almond milk is pleasant.

Do you have inexpensive access to nuts? some IRL friends/acquaintances have been making their own nut milks - apparently easy and tastier than the commercially prepared stuff
mismi
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 08:57 am
@ehBeth,
This is good to know Beth...I have heard almond milk is actually good. I just don't like sweet. I want it to taste like...milk.

What about coconut milk?

Rock - so glad to hear you are feeling well. Makes me very happy!
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 12:29 pm
@ehBeth,
"some of the flavoured soy milk isn't dreadful and that almond milk is pleasant."

true dat...

I got vanilla both times. the soy milk will get used, but I like the texture and flavor of the almond milk, except for the nutty kick...

oh well.

home already. truck is fixed, and it has started to snow. dunno how much more Ima try and do today. I'd cook something, but my checks are no good till the 15th. gonna be kinda tight until then...
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 01:16 pm
@mismi,
mismi wrote:
I just don't like sweet. I want it to taste like...milk.


hehehehe

we were just having a discussion at work about how real, unpasteurized milk tastes ... sweet
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 01:24 pm
@ehBeth,
Milk, I can deal with so far.

cheese is gonna be a problem...

I loves my cheese. pizza, messcan food, lasagna, grilled sammiches (on fake bread).

but I feel better than I have for quite a while.

kinda scary it is...
mismi
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 01:55 pm
@ehBeth,
See it's funny you say that. We have a dairy - I mean it's 45 minutes a way - but the inconvenience of having to go there to get milk for 3 little boys and their mom is too much (it's a lot of stinkin milk too)...I think I am comparing the taste of milk to soy - regular milk is nothing like the soy milk I have tasted - so sweet. Yuck. I have heard the pasteurization process for milk screws it up and basically makes it bad for you...but frankly - I can't find a good substitute.

I looked at rice milk and it was ridiculous how expensive it is. I am going to have to look into making our own I guess. oh bother.

I can't find coconut milk to try it. Where the heck do you get it?
mismi
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 01:56 pm
@Rockhead,
hmmm I don't know what can replace cheese. That would be my issue as well.

I can ask some friends who are lactose intolerant what they do.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 02:09 pm
@mismi,
coconut milk comes in little cans in the chinese food section. also at whole foods.

it's verra coconutty. and thick...
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 02:16 pm
@mismi,
snowplow guy is lactose unfriendly.

he says they sometimes eat soy cheese.

that doesn't even sound appetizing...

speaking of him, iff'n it keeps snowing like it is, he's gonna be looking for his big truck. I needa go finish buttoning it up. gonna light the shop stove so bubba will love me, too.
JPB
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 02:31 pm
@mismi,
mismi wrote:

I looked at rice milk and it was ridiculous how expensive it is. I am going to have to look into making our own I guess. oh bother.

You're going to make your own rice milk? Really? How do you do that? I've begun making my own yogurt from skim milk. I love it!
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 02:33 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

Milk, I can deal with so far.

cheese is gonna be a problem...

I loves my cheese. pizza, messcan food, lasagna, grilled sammiches (on fake bread).

but I feel better than I have for quite a while.

kinda scary it is...


I'd have a hard time going without cheese too. But feeling good has to be worth it, right? I have a friend who makes her own cheese from... I have no idea, but she's a raw chef so I know there's no heat involved.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 02:36 pm
@JPB,
I may sneak a little sharp cheddar now and again and just deal with it...

it is more forgiving than the wheat is.

every day I look out across the road at a giant field of poison. (it loved the 3+" of rain)
JPB
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 02:54 pm
@Rockhead,
You can test the cheese waters and see how it goes. You'll find out quickly if it's not so good. Here's a raw nut cheese recipe.

Cashew Cheese

- 190 grams (1 1/2 cups) plain cashew nuts (not roasted or salted)
- 60 ml (1/4 cup) water
- 2 tablespoons dry white wine (optional; substitute water if preferred)
- 2 teaspoons freshly squeezed lemon juice or good vinegar
- 2 tablespoons nutritional yeast (optional)
- 2 cloves garlic, finely minced
- 1/2 teaspoon fine sea salt
- freshly ground pepper

Makes about 1 1/2 cups.

Place the nuts in a salad bowl, cover with fresh water, and let stand for 2 hours.

Drain the nuts and place them in the bowl of a food processor or blender. Add 60 ml (1/4 cup) water and the rest of the ingredients, and mix until thoroughly puréed, stopping to scrape the sides of the bowl every once in a while. Add a little more water if necessary and blend again to adjust the consistency; the cheese will get a little more solid as it sets.

Transfer to a bowl, cover, and let stand somewhere cool for 24 hours before placing in the fridge, where it will keep for another 5 days.

Adapted from Real Food Daily.

Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 02:56 pm
@JPB,
If I hadda watch it grow, I prolly couldn't eat it...

I got some different sardines. in mustard sauce. and a little tiny size tin with a beer can pull on it...
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 03:15 pm
@mismi,
mismi wrote:
I have heard the pasteurization process for milk screws it up and basically makes it bad for you...but frankly - I can't find a good substitute.


there's nothing in milk that we need that we can't get somewhere else in our diet. I really try to avoid it. I probably use less than half a cup of milk a month now.

I'm still a cheesehead though, gradually working my way over to unpasteurized when I can afford it.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 03:18 pm
@Rockhead,
Soy cheese isn't bad if it's in something heated - I don't care for it to just eat. It doesn't make an awful grilled cheese (on faux bread).

You're not female, so a lot of the concerns around soy cheese shouldn't be a problem for you.

... but ... hooray that <so far> <knock on wood> cutting back on dairy has been promising
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 03:21 pm
@Rockhead,
Quote:
Vegan Grilled Cheese (Vegan, soy-free, gluten free if you use GF bread)

Recipe from The Ultimate Uncheese Cookbook by Jo Stepaniak (reprinted with permission from the author). Makes about 4-6 sandwiches.

Ingredients:

•1 1/3 c. water
•1/2 c. roasted red peppers (skin & seeds removed) or pimiento pieces
•1/3 c. quick-cooking rolled oats
•1/4 c. nutritional yeast flakes
•3 Tbsp. fresh lemon juice
•2 Tbsp. kuzu, arrowroot or cornstarch
•1 Tbsp sesame tahini
•2 tsp onion powder (I used about 2 Tbsp fresh chopped onion)
•1 1/4 tsp salt
•1/4 teaspoon each: garlic powder (I used 2 cloves chopped garlic), ground dill seed or coriander, dry mustard, and paprika.
•Pinch of cayenne
•8-12 slices of bread (use rice bread to make this recipe gluten free)
•Tomatoes or salsa (optional)
Directions:

Combine all ingredients except bread and tomatoes, in a blender or food processor until completely smooth. Pour into a medium saucepan and bring to a boil, stirring constantly. Reduce heat to medium low and cook, stirring frequently, until mixture is very thick and smooth. Remove from heat. Spread about 3-4 Tbsp of mixture each onto half of the bread slices. Top with a slice of tomato or some salsa, if desired, and remaining bread slices.

Heat in a large skillet (lightly misted with olive oil) over medium heat until golden brown, about 3 minutes per side. Cut diagonally and serve. Or cut straight across or don’t cut it at all, I’m not the boss of you.




http://cleangreensimple.com/2011/03/vegan-grilled-cheese/

kinda weird, but I think it has potential
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 03:35 pm
@ehBeth,
I can't have oats.

(unless they are special oats that have lived apart from wheat all their lives and are scary priced)

and part of the joy of grilled cheese is the ease with which one does it.

I need a private chef. that's the ticket...
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2012 03:43 pm
@Rockhead,
the name of this website kinda says it all

http://www.whatisleft.ca/

http://www.whatisleft.ca/?p=242 (grilled cheese)
 

 
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