All I have been trying to say is that this "transition" could have been done with more sensitivity towards the members of both groups, that's all.
While I can kind of see this from the Droid folks perspective (they were wrenched from their cozy little forum into, well, here).
I don't see where you're coming from, though. Had these folks shown up on their own and started posting about Droids, would you have even cared?
When the ESL folks came here from China, did you think you were deserving of some sort of "sensitivity"?
It's the Internet. People from all over the world have access to this site, and ask all manner of questions.
OK. Here’s where I was coming from.
We put a lot of value on community here & that’s what’s made so many of us so committed to this site. Often the in the past, the community has been consulted in advance on changes to the site. For example, there’s been a recent lengthy discussion here, initiated by Robert, about our thoughts on threaded forums, or other features of the site. We have also, in the past, been informed about changes that are about to occur at A2k. It’s a feature of this site I’ve always liked & appreciated. It’s been one that has kept me committed to A2K. It's made me feel valued as a member. If you like, I’ve made a personal “investment” here, like many other members.
It is not so much that I object to the Droid folks’ presence here. None of us have any “rights” in that matter. Robert is the site owner & that’s solely his decision to make. No argument. It is more about processes
with me. I don’t believe, in this particular case, we had any consultation “rights” It is just that I think it would have been less bewildering (for both A2Kers & the Droid people) if some explanatory announcement had been made early in the piece. There was quite a deal of fanfare about the large increase in membership numbers, yet no explanation about who, how & why. (Once again, A2K was absolutely not obliged to do this, it’s just a practice that I’ve valued & grown used to here.)
I had no knowledge of what was happening “behind the scenes” in the merger of the two sites until Robert told me, as part of our conversation on this thread yesterday. I had no idea that he was actually the new owner of the Droids site. I take on board his explanation that the merger had to happen quickly, for business-related reasons - therefore it was not possible to inform members of both sites in advance. But I do believe, that once the merger had actually occurred
, it would have saved considerable confusion & angst for members of both groups if there had been more information provided. And avoided a bit of “online friction” between members of both groups. (Once again, no obligation to inform. It just would have made the situation a lot clearer & more comfortable, that’s all.)
As I see it, 300 new members, all belonging to an existing single-issue group, is a different matter entirely to individual ESL students posting from China, or anywhere else. Most times when I log on here, there are fewer than 300 participants online at any one time. So, not so surprisingly, my perception was that the nature of the A2K community was about to change in a big way. It is now also clear, from Robert’s posts during our discussion, that there will be more such mergers in the future & A2K will continue to grow bigger & bigger. And that some of us may not like the changes. However, these are solely Robert’s decisions to make.
Sorry this has been such a long response. But I do feel the need to explain what my concerns were.
Robert, If you are reading this while on holiday (I do hope not!). I’m really sorry that that I posted while you were under such incredible stress. You’d been posting up a such a storm on A2K for days, I had absolutely no idea of your other “behind the scenes” activities until your posts yesterday. Have a good, refreshing break.