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Do Atheists favour Buddism over the other faiths?

 
 
Jasper10
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 10:16 pm
@vikorr,
Anyone can go inward and do the duality knowledge gathering stuff.You know, the out of consciousness synch meditation.

Trying to balance consciousness is a whole new challenge,not for the faint hearted or coward.

Consciousness and Awareness are different.

You are unaware vikorr.

The Anointed
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 10:30 pm
@coluber2001,
Quote:
Buddhists may be more open to the enlightened person or mystic than Christians because the mystic is more or less anathema to Christianity. But Buddhists also have their fundamentalist sects.


Jesus and Buddha are both said to have been born of a pure virgin, honoured by heavenly beings at their birth, prayed to by Kings, and loaded with presents, ’ happy is the whole world sing the gods, under the form of young Brahmins at the birth of the child Buddha. And it is said over and over again in the Chinese books that Buddha was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and born of a ‘pure virgin’.

It is written also in the Lalita Vistara, ‘the legendary biography of Buddha,’ dating from before the time of Christ, “For he is indeed born who brings salvation, and will establish the world in blessedness. He is born who will darken sun and moon by the splendor of his merits and will put all darkness to flight. The blind see, the deaf hear, the demented are restored to reason.” A. Drews, The Christ Myth, P. 104.
Jasper10
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 10:55 pm
@The Anointed,
The Buddha couldn’t and didn’t balance consciousness.

He got all his knowledge from out of consciousness synch dualistic meditative practices The Anointed.

He was merely a prisoner of consciousness.That is why he came out with all the nonsense he came out with.

He was totally unaware.

You cannot balance consciousness until you separate awareness from it.
vikorr
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 02:25 am
@Jasper10,
I don't comprehend your apparently stringent need to be right - the journey is more important than the destination...and I would say on philosophical journeys, the destination can never be reached. From this perspective, philosophical 'right' doesn't exist.

The mere fact that you feel the need to constantly attack other people who disagree with you, speaks about where you are on your journey....and to a much, much lesser degree...so does your need to be right....your avoidance of consideration for the semantics of your position ...your lack of consideration of degrees as opposed to absolutes.

I'm also presuming you found your journey frightening, or you would not have mentioned 'faint heared' or 'coward' in such a context....which is different to my experience, where I have found it just needs consideration (and often, a lot of practice). Does that make me better than you? No. It just makes the experience of my journey somewhat different to yours.

This discussion has only ever been about right and wrong (of philosophical position) for one person. I have left the absolutes out for what 'appears' to be the case - to me. And that makes me neither certain, nor right.

And as I have said multiple times - if what you believes works for you, then it is good for you.
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vikorr
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 03:38 am
@Jasper10,
Considering your virtually non-existent attempts at explaining your position during my conversation with you (stating things as fact is not an attempt at explantion, nor is saying '+/-=+/-' any explanation without a great deal more background information)...and your avoidance of discussion of any of the issues I proposed....I went and looked up your post history, and found:

- the same pattern of non-existent explanation on your part

- the same pattern of short sentence statements (which perhaps you believe are explanations, but such statements require a great deal of explanation prior to them being considered explanations...same with all philosophy)

- the same pattern of lack of engagement with the other persons on a philosophical level (which involves discussion, consideration of the others position, explanation, and attempts at logic, rather than the mere flinging around of statements).

- the same pattern of 'I'm right, you're wrong'

It seems obvious to me that no one will ever understand your philosophical position if you are unwilling to explain it in detail, so I'm left with wondering what benefit you get from continually not explaining your position while saying 'I'm right, you're wrong'...

Most would attribute such behaviour to a need to feel superior...but such methods would only build a futilely false sense of superiority, resulting in a constant need for validation - even if it is only by oneself.

Which thoughts lead me to ask myself 'why did you think philosophy could cause a person to feel faint hearted and cowardly?'


Jasper10
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 05:49 am
@vikorr,
As I say vikorr anyone can do out of consciousness synch dualistic meditation.

Try balancing consciousness.

Let’s see how brave you are.
vikorr
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 06:07 am
@Jasper10,
As I mentioned before:
- philosophy doesn't take bravery, just consideration (though it appears you personally need bravery to face your philsophy, which is fine, but you then go and project that onto everyone else)
- you don't actually attempt to explain your philosophy...so, currently, your philsophy is utterly meaningless / nonsensical to anyone but yourself

Are you ever going to bother explaining your philsophy? Or just going to continually spout sloganistic (ie. empty in the absence of explanation) 'philosophy'? Your post history says you won't explain your thoughts, or discuss anyone elses ideas...and if you won't do either of these things (which is what conversation is actually about)...then what makes you worth talking to?
Jasper10
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 06:31 am
@vikorr,
It is utterly meaningless if you are unaware which you are so you are in no position offer me advice.

If you were aware then you would know what I’m talking about.

Try balancing consciousness as I say.

Your knowledge is mere out of consciousness synch dualistic nonsense.
vikorr
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 06:38 am
@Jasper10,
I see...you wish to display that you don't actually want to converse, meaning there is no point talking with you. Fair enough. Done.
Jasper10
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 06:38 am
@vikorr,
How would you know when you are totally unaware?

Awareness and Unawareness sit above consciousness.

The aware realise it,the unaware don’t and they remain a prisoner of consciousness.



Jasper10
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 10:37 am
@Jasper10,
The notion that awareness and consciousness are the same originates from atheistic philosophical half logic and science which has resulted in the assumption that the electromagnetic forces in nature cancel out which they don’t.They vibratory balance due to the full logic electromagnetic formula +/-=+/- which derives from the 4 off electromagnetic force interactions -/-…-/+…+/-…+/+.

Once you have the full logic equation you are able to balance consciousness.
Jasper10
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 01:25 pm
@Jasper10,
Inward only dualistic meditation is a waste of time and certainly does not reveal truth that’s for sure.If you have no control of consciousness then you have no control at all.

The fact that you don’t realise it because you are stuck in complete unawareness claiming that you are aware clearly doesn’t help.

You go within then come back out again and apply.

Inward/Outward meditation balances consciousness and reveals all truth which sets you free.

Jasper10
 
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Tue 30 May, 2023 11:33 pm
@Jasper10,
Awareness sits above Consciousness and is completely separate from it.

You need to know this to be able balance consciousness.

We know this because we know that there is and in and out of the moment consciousness.
Jasper10
 
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Wed 31 May, 2023 01:42 am
@Jasper10,
If you believe you are consciousness, then which one are you? The in or out of the moment consciousness state?

I don't do DUALITY consciousness because I am not consciousness. I do AWARENESS which is completely separate from it.

Consciousness get vibratory balanced. Not cancelled.......vibratory balanced.
Jasper10
 
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Wed 31 May, 2023 02:45 am
@Jasper10,
Any one can go out of the moment and do their own nonsense science; philosophy and psychology. That's easy.

But it is a biased science; philosophy and psychology because you are in only one of two consciousness states.

Have a go at balancing consciousness.

That will sort you out but I say again, it's not for the coward or the faint hearted. You will find out what I mean when you try it.
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