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NIHILISM!!!!! Where did we go wrong?

 
 
Amigo
 
Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 09:58 pm
Somwhere along the way.....well, it just went wrong.

IT'S I NIHILIST REVIVAL!!!
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 10:04 pm

Logically, shoud sincere nihilism begin with suicide ?
Amigo
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 10:13 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
No, Totally a misunderstanding of nihilism. Suicide in an option. If you choose to live you go out to absorb life on your own terms. This involves destruction and birth as it accurs naturally. Very large guns are involved. Belief systems, political correctness and Religion and other forms of control are infidelity to human nature.

CalamityJane
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 10:13 pm
You've got to get out of Utah, Amigo - the Mormons messed with your head!
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 10:18 pm
@Amigo,
Amigo wrote:
No, Totally a misunderstanding of nihilism.
Suicide in an option. If you choose to live you go out to absorb life on your own terms.
This involves destruction and birth as it accurs naturally.
Very large guns are involved. Belief systems, political correctness
and Religion and other forms of control are infidelity to human nature.
Is a choice to live inherently a fundamental betrayal of nihilism ?
Amigo
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 10:33 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
No, What is fundamental is that NOTHING IS FUNDAMENTAL. That is nihilism, and when you understand that.... you understand true freedom. When you believe in an ideal and defend it with your life perhaps, maybe you don't really believe in it, maybe you are a free man and really a nihilist negotiating circumstances.
Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 10:36 pm
@Amigo,
What CJ said.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 11:03 pm
@Amigo,
Amigo wrote:
No, What is fundamental is that NOTHING IS FUNDAMENTAL.
That is nihilism, and when you understand that.... you understand true freedom.
When you believe in an ideal and defend it with your life perhaps,
maybe you don't really believe in it, maybe you are a free man
and really a nihilist negotiating circumstances.
No, Amigo, that is a very LIBERAL interpretation of nihilism,
which is the belief that existence does not exist.
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fresco
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 01:52 am
@Amigo,
IMO Nihilism is a non-starter, because as soon as we engage in dialogue, even with ourself, we are conforming to a covert set of group norms embodied in language.
Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 02:15 am
@Merry Andrew,
Laughing Laughing I read that.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 02:19 am
@fresco,
Well, Can't you apply that to all ideology and philosophy. If fact! That sounds exactly like something Nieitche (however you spell it) would say. A covert set of group norms?? If I am quilty of that then everyone is.
fresco
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 02:27 am
@Amigo,
Correct! Its origins can be traced through Nietsche, Heidegger and Foucault. (amongst others).

The conclusion seems to be that we can be deconstructivists but never nihilists.
Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 02:41 am
@fresco,
deconstructivists?? Whats that? A politically correct Nihilist??? Laughing

Embarrassed sorry, I need to look that up.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 02:51 am
WHAT I FOUND

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstructivism

Arcitecture! Sure sign of weakness for roofs.

and

“Deconstruction is not a dismantling of the structure of a text, but a demonstration that it has already dismantled itself. Its apparently-solid ground is no rock, but thin air."

Deconstruction requires an order and in that order there is a creativity that dies. Most often the man that needs order robs the man that creates in chaos and claims credit for order when it is the man of chaos that deserves the credit for creation.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 03:05 am
THE TAG FOR MY NIETZXCHE THREAD IS: yaaahhhnnnnnn

DAMM THE CYBER GODS!!! I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN....WHY WHY
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 03:15 am
@Amigo,
Amigo wrote:
No, What is fundamental is that NOTHING IS FUNDAMENTAL.
Amigo, the reason that "NOTHING IS FUNDAMENTAL" is that,

according to nihilism, EXISTENCE does NOT and SHOUD NOT ` EXIST.
Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 03:32 am
@OmSigDAVID,
NIHILISM says prove your right to exist among it all. If you cannot perpetuate it, your life race, religion whatever, is because you choose one way or the other.

But whatever you choose it is a contradiction. Nihilism is (i could be wrong) the only philosophy that doesn't clapse under the weight of CONTRADICTION.

I an not dead, yet I am a nihilist.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 04:40 am
@Amigo,
Amigo wrote:
NIHILISM says prove your right to exist among it all.
If you cannot perpetuate it, your life race, religion whatever,
is because you choose one way or the other.

But whatever you choose it is a contradiction. Nihilism is
(i could be wrong) [In order to be RONG, u 'd have to EXIST; nihilism says that u do not exist.]

the only philosophy that doesn't clapse under the weight of CONTRADICTION.

I an not dead, yet I am a nihilist.
[If nihilism is right, then u r LESS than dead, because u don 't even exist enuf to be dead.]

nihil

noun
(Latin) nil; nothing

No, no, Amigo; u r taking a liberal deviation,
stabbing nihilism in the back. HOW COUD U !!??

U r not even dead, like a rock, because a rock EXISTS
and nihilism teaches that u have not even risen to THAT level, and u shoud NOT rise to that level.

Existence is the OPPOSITE of nihilistic teaching.

If a true, earnest nihilist failed to commit suicide,
he 'd be open to accusations of HYPOCRISY
(but those accusations woud not issue from other nihilists,
because thay 'd already have committed suicide).

(I 'm only playing with your head, Amigo,
in that I don 't really want u to commit suicide,
at least not b4 I take out some life insurance on u.)
Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 04:47 am
@OmSigDAVID,
DO I EVOKE YOU????

NO! I don't, you evoke yourself. Fight yourself brother.

TRUTH, MONEY, RIGHT , WRONG!

And a gun.

NIHALISM!!!!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 04:58 am
@Amigo,
Amigo wrote:
DO I EVOKE YOU????
U don 't do ANYTHING, because u don t EXIST, (if u r right about nihilism).
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