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The Colts took a steaming dump on the NFL and all its fans today

 
 
panzade
 
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Reply Sun 27 Dec, 2009 08:17 pm
It was a dismal day for the Colts although Manning tried to make the best of it at his news conference. Certainly, the team chemistry could dissolve and they might not even get into the Super Bowl

Management was saying:"we'll trade an unbeaten season for a Super Bowl."..perhaps eying the Pats perfect season and loss in the super Bowl.

I think Colts fans will go along with it...the Steelers fans will be livid
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 09:18 am
@kickycan,
And if you truly believe this, you dont understand football.

The Colts have already won the division, they have homefield advantage for the entire playoffs (that means they will play ALL of their games in Indianapolis), and they have a first round bye.

Since the objective is to win the Super Bowl, it made sense to pull their star players.

Why risk getting them hurt in a meaningless game?
Rest them now, they dont get hurt, and they are fresh, unhurt and ready for the playoffs.
A perfect season is meaningless if you dont win the Super Bowl.
Just ask the New England Patriots.
They had a perfect season and lost the Super Bowl to the NY Giants.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 09:27 am
@kickycan,
This is why I don't watch pro ball.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 09:44 am
@kickycan,
Quote:
And besides, my Steelers might not make the playoffs because of this bullshit!
me thinks yer steelers would have rested big ben had they already clinched a spot...
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 09:45 am
@mysteryman,
Quote:
Just ask the New England Patriots.
They had a perfect season and lost the Super Bowl to the NY Giants.
the pates didn't lose bcos they were tired or banged up going for perfection, they lost bcos they were out-played...
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 10:11 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

And if you truly believe this, you dont understand football.


And if you truly are going to answer me by explaining **** I already know, then you don't understand what I'm talking about.

Yes, I know how these assholes do things. I've been watching football for a long time. I'm just saying, it's a fucked up way to do things. No other pro sport has this same mentality, and I hate it. I guess since you understand everthing and it's all cool with you, then you would be fine with it if they just called the league office and said, "you know, since we clinched, we're just going to practice for the next couple weeks, and not show up at all for those last two games. Just mark it down as a forfeit for us. Oh, and tell any angry fans that bought tickets that they just don't understand football."

If they aren't going to play every game to win, then why show up at all?

Why don't you call up all the fans who came out in the snow and rain and paid $100 bucks to see their team who were booing for the whole last quarter how it works and how dumb they are for being upset.

Sitting players "just in case" is a douche bag move anyway. It isn't like all these guys were certain to be injured if they played them. Play the game like it is supposed to be played is all I ask, and get the best teams in the playoffs.

Here's another question for everyone: Next week the idiot Jets are playing the Bengals, who are in a position where they might do the same thing the Colts did, depending on how the situation is when that game is played. Is it fair to you that this **** team is going to be playing in the playoffs simply because they had two free games? Is that understandable and okie-dokie with everyone? Would it be okay if your team was the one who gets pushed out because of this idiot strategy?
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 10:12 am
@kickycan,
kickycan wrote:
I guess since you understand everthing and it's all cool with you, then you would be fine with it if they just called the league office and said, "you know, since we clinched, we're just going to practice for the next couple weeks, and not show up at all for those last two games. Just mark it down as a forfeit for us. Oh, and tell any angry fans that bought tickets that they just don't understand football."

Bingo.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 10:15 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:

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And besides, my Steelers might not make the playoffs because of this bullshit!
me thinks yer steelers would have rested big ben had they already clinched a spot...


Maybe they would have, maybe they wouldn't. I still hate this strategy. Have you ever heard of a team losing a big player in a meaningless game that ended up messing up their chances in the playoffs? Has it ever actually happened?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 10:18 am
@mysteryman,
Quote:
Since the objective is to win the Super Bowl, it made sense to pull their star players.

Why risk getting them hurt in a meaningless game?


Because the players hate it and the fans hate it. Losing games intentionally just feels wrong. It's cheating the honor of the game. Sportsmanship demands that you give games your all; holding back in order to maybe do better later is ******* insulting to everyone involved.

It's one thing to bench your best players when you are winning; but to do so when you are losing, and not put them back in when you are obviously getting your butt kicked? Terrible decision, bad for morale, bad for everyone. And there's no real proof that this sort of decision leads to better performances later on, either.

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 10:45 am
@kickycan,
kickycan wrote:
How the hell can you say that? They lost their seven games by a total of like 25 points, they've had a lot of injuries, and they have had their best player (possibly the best player in the game) sidelined for almost the whole season!

That's right. With a healthy Willie Parker they'da been unstoppable this year!
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 11:00 am
@kickycan,
Quote:
Have you ever heard of a team losing a big player in a meaningless game that ended up messing up their chances in the playoffs? Has it ever actually happened?
can't think of an instance of it happening, but the fact that teams do it means it's prolly happened before and they aren't willing to risk losing a key player in a "meaningless" game.

having clinched the div yesterday, the pates prolly won't play the starters for a full game next week, and will most likely bench anyone who isn't 100%.

i don't have a problem with this stategy.

sure i'd like to see the star players on the field at all times, but i'd hate to see my team get eliminated bcos of injuries to key players.

and having to rely on other teams losing to sneak into the playoffs sucks the big one...
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 28 Dec, 2009 11:23 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:
...and having to rely on other teams losing to sneak into the playoffs sucks the big one...

Yes ... particularly for the defending Super Bowl champs.


Go Cards!
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maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2009 09:34 am
If I were a Colts fan, I would be MUCH MUCH MUCH more pissed if they decided to play Manning all week next week (after they clinched) and he DID get injured right before the playoffs.

As a Colts fan, at the game or not, you probably would like this decision.

Are there any Colts fans here that would agree?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2009 12:20 pm
Gotta go with Kicky on this one, for the most part. I don't think you have to go all Bill Belicheat against every opponent (drive up scores just to pad stats), but I do think you owe it to the fans to try and win before forfeiting the exceedingly rare opportunity to compete for perfection. Coach fucked the team and fans alike with that bonehead decision, and there's certainly no guarantee they'll even be competing for a Super Bowl (I’d wager they won’t be). Will he next forfeit Manning's consecutive starts streak in an attempt to protect him? (Fat chance)

And what is he protecting him from, anyway? Manning's only been sacked 10 times all year (Compare to Rodgers' 50!). On the other hand, Manning’s such a ball hog, even after sitting most of that one out he still leads the league in Attempts. I predict the Colts will be watching the Super Bowl with the rest of us and Coach Caldwell will be infamously remembered as the dolt who forfeited their chance at perfection. His name will come up every time a team makes a run at it.
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2009 12:51 pm
@OCCOM BILL,
OCCOM BILL wrote:

I predict the Colts will be watching the Super Bowl with the rest of us and Coach Caldwell will be infamously remembered as the dolt who forfeited their chance at perfection. His name will come up every time a team makes a run at it.


If the Colts are indeed sitting at home watching the Super Bowl then there wouldn't have been a chance of perfection anyway.

16-0 means NOTHING w/o a Super Bowl win (ask the Pates). If they win the SB, no one will care about being 15-1 or 14-2.
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2009 12:55 pm
I wonder if the Colts are better off having lost a game. Can you imagine the pressure that the Pates felt in 2007; it helped lead to their loss to the Giants.

Now, that pressure is gone. At least one positive.


And if I were a fan of this team and I was pissed off; I'd boycott next weeks game (though it's an away game) and let the owners feel it in their pocket-books. I'm sure there is no shortage of fans who just want to enjoy themselves though; even pre-season games sell out.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2009 01:24 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
If the Colts are indeed sitting at home watching the Super Bowl then there wouldn't have been a chance of perfection anyway.

By pulling their starters and half-assing it, they've now lost the "razor's edge" (to quote Steve Young). They are not as primed to win in the playoffs as they were before they took their foot off the gas.
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2009 01:27 pm
@Ticomaya,
Yeah, maybe.

I was in Green Bay this week watching my Seahawks get their asses pounded into the tundra. I wish Zorn would have benched the starters in the 1Q.
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2009 01:33 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

Yeah, maybe.

I was in Green Bay this week watching my Seahawks get their asses pounded into the tundra. I wish Zorn would have benched the starters in the 1Q.
LOL! We were there too! Good time, no?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2009 01:38 pm
I tend to side with Kicky's, Occom Bill's, and Tico's last point on this - but also expected it to happen as it had been all over SI and other websites for quite a while.
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