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what is "consciousness"?

 
 
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 02:52 am
@existential potential,
According to my parents I was born with it, and I have no memory of ever "starting". Perhaps it has to do with some stubborn trust in one's own intuition and instincts...
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Dasein
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 10:39 am
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:
I think what you're talking about has to do with what Heidegger called 'non-relational possibilities' in Being and Time. We all know what these 'possibilities' are, but of course we cannot speak of them.

It's sort of like saying "I love you" to someone. One says it to the other and the other merely 'echoes' it back(or not). All that gets expressed here is the "I love you" which everyone knows the meaning to, however we cannot speak or even think of this meaning.

I think it has to do with what Heidegger means when he says "we are already in an understanding of being whenever we comports ourselves to entities as an entity".

All 'relations' had to of come from a 'possibility of a non-relation', right?
Actually what you're pointing at has nothing to do with what I'm saying and that's the point of what I'm saying. I don't like saying what I have to say the way I'm going to say it, however, I don't have another way. In the depths of 'Be'-ing, after you get past the superficial academic philosophical explanations, there is a 'state-of-being' called 'knowing'. 'Knowing' allows you to 'understand' (clumsy word) where 'time', 'space', 'relativity', and 'academic philosophy' come from. They all reside in 'Be'-ing, but you will never know that until you do what it takes to get to the 'depths'. The first thing you need to do is let go of all the superficial crap you can prove. 'Knowing' has absolutely nothing to do with 'proving'. Until you let go of what you can prove, you won't have a clue about what I'm talking about.

This is why it's taken me almost 74 readings of Being and Time to get to here.

All anybody can do is point you in a direction. If you choose not to travel in that direction, well, that is your choice.

You, more than anyone else participating in this forum, know what I'm talking about. All that's left to do is to get on with it, or not.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 10:57 am
@Dasein,
lol
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north
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 02:56 pm

awarness , empathy , understanding , knowledge and continuous knowledge , and seeing the without beyond ones self
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existential potential
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 03:20 pm
@Dasein,
I think you need to read another book. Wink
Dasein
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:25 pm
@existential potential,
It really doesn't matter what you think, does it? I'm going to read what I'm going to read and I'm going to say what I'm going to say and there's nothing you can say or do about it.

On the other side, it doesn't matter what I think either. You're going to read what you're going to read and you're going to say what you're going to say and there's nothing I can or want to do about that.

I put you on ignore so I don't have read or hear what you say. However, I do periodically check in on you to see if you've grown any ears.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:28 pm
@Dasein,
You are a pigeon in disguise...your arrogance is only matched by your plain stupidity ! You make a dumb fellow seam smart any time any day !
Dasein
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:41 pm
@JPLosman0711,
BTW - Did you know that in mythology "psyche" meant butterfly? Think about that for awhile. Way back then they knew what 'Be'-ing meant. Today's psychology wants to capture the 'butterfly' in a net, put it in a jar, watch it die, and pin it to corkboard. What they don't realize that once you 'capture' it and it dies, it is no longer what you were chasing around the field.
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Dasein
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:42 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
That's seem, not seam.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:44 pm
@Dasein,
Thank you !
Dasein
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:57 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
You kinda grow on people, don't you?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 06:01 pm
@Dasein,
I do...I really love philosophy...not politics...guilty as charged !
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2011 12:57 am
@Dasein,
Quote:
It really doesn't matter what you think, does it? I'm going to read what I'm going to read and I'm going to say what I'm going to say and there's nothing you can say or do about it.

On the other side, it doesn't matter what I think either. You're going to read what you're going to read and you're going to say what you're going to say and there's nothing I can or want to do about that.


If you truly believe that, then what are you doing on a forum for philosophic discussion? Are you using it as your personal blogg, promoting that half written, never completed book of yours?
Dasein
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2011 09:18 am
@Cyracuz,
The substance of your post contains no value whatsoever.

Your irrational response speaks volumes about you.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2011 09:26 am
@Dasein,
lol.. just lol.. go read your half written book for the 75th time
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existential potential
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2011 09:40 am
@Dasein,
The most frustrating thing with you Dasein is that you are totally closed off from engaging with your own ideas, and are simply not prepared for debate at all. Yet, you accuse us, or at least me, of "hiding behind concepts", or accuse me of "not having ears".

There is huge glaring contradiction in nearly every accusation you make against me; if only you were to turn your accusations towards yourself, then maybe you would realise this. I think until you can start listening to what you yourself are saying, then all you'll keep doing is accusing others of doing what you yourself are guilty of doing on this forum-being closed minded, unfair, conceited, preachy, self-satisfied, and almost totally abhorrent.
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