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Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

 
 
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I didn't ask if your opinion would have changed the outcome. I'm asking I'd you agree with the choice or the reasoning behind it.

You don't need to be a committee member to have an opinion. And to critize others for theirs, but being unwilling to state your own is bad form.
ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:04 am
@dyslexia,
I still think he is a good precedent.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
So it doesn't matter in this case what I think or don't think.


that's actually what the O.p's question was about.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:12 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

I didn't ask if your opinion would have changed the outcome. I'm asking I'd you agree with the choice or the reasoning behind it.

You don't need to be a committee member to have an opinion. And to critize others for theirs, but being unwilling to state your own is bad form.


I don't mind who gets it or not.
Obama was chosen out of 205 names, which we will not know within the next 50 years.
It might well be that there were others, who should have got the prize.

I don't have an opinion about things which I do not know.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:14 am
Quote:
All Nobel Peace Prize Laureates

The Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded 89 times to 119 Nobel Laureates between 1901 and 2008 " 96 times to individuals and 23 times to organizations. Since International Committee of the Red Cross was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1917, 1944 and 1963, and the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1954 and 1981, that means 96 individuals and 20 organizations have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Click on each name to see the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate's page.

2009 - Barack Obama
2008 - Martti Ahtisaari
2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Al Gore
2006 - Muhammad Yunus, Grameen Bank
2005 - International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei
2004 - Wangari Maathai
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
2000 - Kim Dae-jung
1999 - Médecins Sans Frontières
1998 - John Hume, David Trimble
1997 - International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Jody Williams
1996 - Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, José Ramos-Horta
1995 - Joseph Rotblat, Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs
1994 - Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin
1993 - Nelson Mandela, F.W. de Klerk
1992 - Rigoberta Menchú Tum
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
1989 - The 14th Dalai Lama
1988 - United Nations Peacekeeping Forces
1987 - Oscar Arias Sánchez
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1985 - International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War
1984 - Desmond Tutu
1983 - Lech Walesa
1982 - Alva Myrdal, Alfonso García Robles
1981 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1980 - Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
1979 - Mother Teresa
1978 - Anwar al-Sadat, Menachem Begin
1977 - Amnesty International
1976 - Betty Williams, Mairead Corrigan
1975 - Andrei Sakharov
1974 - Seán MacBride, Eisaku Sato
1973 - Henry Kissinger, Le Duc Tho
1972 - The prize money for 1972 was allocated to the Main Fund
1971 - Willy Brandt
1970 - Norman Borlaug
1969 - International Labour Organization
1968 - René Cassin
1967 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1966 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1965 - United Nations Children's Fund
1964 - Martin Luther King Jr.
1963 - International Committee of the Red Cross, League of Red Cross Societies
1962 - Linus Pauling
1961 - Dag Hammarskjöld
1960 - Albert Lutuli
1959 - Philip Noel-Baker
1958 - Georges Pire
1957 - Lester Bowles Pearson
1956 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1955 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1954 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1953 - George C. Marshall
1952 - Albert Schweitzer
1951 - Léon Jouhaux
1950 - Ralph Bunche
1949 - Lord Boyd Orr
1948 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1947 - Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
1946 - Emily Greene Balch, John R. Mott
1945 - Cordell Hull
1944 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1943 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1942 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1941 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1940 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1939 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1938 - Nansen International Office for Refugees
1937 - Robert Cecil
1936 - Carlos Saavedra Lamas
1935 - Carl von Ossietzky
1934 - Arthur Henderson
1933 - Sir Norman Angell
1932 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1931 - Jane Addams, Nicholas Murray Butler
1930 - Nathan Söderblom
1929 - Frank B. Kellogg
1928 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1927 - Ferdinand Buisson, Ludwig Quidde
1926 - Aristide Briand, Gustav Stresemann
1925 - Sir Austen Chamberlain, Charles G. Dawes
1924 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1923 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1922 - Fridtjof Nansen
1921 - Hjalmar Branting, Christian Lange
1920 - Léon Bourgeois
1919 - Woodrow Wilson
1918 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1917 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1916 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1915 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1914 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1913 - Henri La Fontaine
1912 - Elihu Root
1911 - Tobias Asser, Alfred Fried
1910 - Permanent International Peace Bureau
1909 - Auguste Beernaert, Paul Henri d'Estournelles de Constant
1908 - Klas Pontus Arnoldson, Fredrik Bajer
1907 - Ernesto Teodoro Moneta, Louis Renault
1906 - Theodore Roosevelt
1905 - Bertha von Suttner
1904 - Institute of International Law
1903 - Randal Cremer
1902 - Élie Ducommun, Albert Gobat
1901 - Henry Dunant, Frédéric Passy
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:15 am
just my guess, of course, but perhaps this is really an award to the USA for electing Obama an african-american "liberal" (if only that were true) and not electing more Bush. The world community likes that Obama seems more acceptable of america's inclusion in world affairs rather than the world bully.
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
LOL LOL

ok, how do you feel about it then? Whe you heard were you happy?Upset? Indifferent? Blank? Gassy? Cramped up?

Do you have ANY thoughts of your own on the matter?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:17 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Since the question which started this thread was to elicit our opinions, why did you bother posting here?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:21 am
@maporsche,
Okay, since you asked about my feelings now ...

I think that the USA should be proud to have got again a Peace Prize Laureate.

When I heard it, I was surprised. My later thoughts were that a lot of negative responses would appear here and elsewhere.

Generally, I don't mind who gets what prize where and when.
There are some, however, who really can need that money or the prestige.

I think that the Nobel Peace Prize is a political, philosophical instrument.
It seems to work.
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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:23 am
From The Times (London)

Absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace prize
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6867711.ece


I think Obama would do well to refuse the award (and i think he might) on the grounds of it, in itself, being detrimental to peace.

Otherwise, it can only fuel more outrage.

Personally, I'm starting to think the whole ******* world has gone nuts
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:24 am
@sozobe,
I wondered that myself.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:25 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Since the question which started this thread was to elicit our opinions, why did you bother posting here?


I'd mentioned the Nobel Peace Prize a bit earlier than this thread started, on the Obama thread.
My first response was related to that. And then I just stayed here.

I do hope that this response comes up to our expectations.
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:36 am
@sozobe,
I don't know; but even if the decision were made today, I don't think my feelings on the matter would change one iota.

Obama hasn't actually accomplished anything to warrent this prize YET.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:37 am
I really don't get this at all.. but I'm grateful for the comedic value attached to it and will enjoy the outrage, hand wringing, whining, crying, self righteous indignation and general pants wetting hissy the right will have over this.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:38 am
@Walter Hinteler,
if I understand Walter correctly I very much support Walter in that the Nobel Committee does whatever it does.
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:39 am
@dyslexia,
Yes. And now we're all fully aware that Walter's opinions on who they should award the prize to, actually have zero impact on determining who actually is awarded the prize.

I'm glad he was able to clear up that bit of confusion.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:40 am
This thread has 55 replies already! I want to join everyone in expressing happiness on the honor given to our president.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:41 am
@wandeljw,
yeah.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:43 am
@Bi-Polar Bear,
I think that this does undermine Obama somewhat.

He gains nothing by winning this award NOW.

It will be used against him by the right (and possibly, effectively; it does support their claims that Obama is mainly a celebrity, and gifted speaker, which they'll follow with "and not much more")

This award can only be a net negative to Obama at this point in his presdency. Maybe after he DID something....
panzade
 
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Reply Fri 9 Oct, 2009 07:48 am
Raising the troop level in Afghanistan might be teensy bit more difficult after being awarded the Peace prize methinks....
 

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