@aidan,
Quote:So now a man is here to tell us what we SHOULD be discussing and what we ARE most interested in and what sort of work we DO find demeaning.
No I'm not. I'm telling you what you would be discussing if you weren't so molly-coddled and didn't take harvests and consumer durables for granted. And they weren't taken for granted by the majority 100 years ago here and nor are they by the majority of the world's population now.
Feminism began as an upper middle-class phenomenom and is now a lower middle class one. It is a function of boredom which stems from the molly coddling which everybody seems to assume is natural. It is not intended to release the world's females from drudgery. Perish the thought. Feminism is an affectation from a motive of self interest.
The statment quoted above is typical of a way of discussing things which is common in our world and strikingly so on this site. It confuses facts with opinions. I state a fact, it is declared an opinion and then I'm attacked with insulting assertions to discredit my opinion and the fact of the fact is on Ignore and a fond belief grows up that the unsuitable fact is discredited. Subjectivity in nutcase mode. Shoot the messenger. Like some scientific critical thinkers have done on the evolution threads. How can an opinion frighten anybody over 10 enough to resort to the Ignore button? That's ridiculous. It is the facts that are ignored.
According to the Darwinists I am an animal. Born in evolutionary time. That is my basic nature. The arrangments of my body and the processes within it are a result of millions of years of evolution. Freud and Reich, and others, were agreed that warping, bending out of shape by society's pliers as Dylan called it, is a threat to health when it goes against those evolved processes. Put that on Ignore at your peril.
The thinking bit is no more that the icing on the cake. Getting it into disharmony with the evolved drives of the organism is un-natural. I stop at traffic lights because it's easier than not doing in the long run. Not because I think it is the socially acceptable thing to do. Hence it doesn't frustrate me. My blood does not boil.
And I would do that regarding feminism if I thought it useful to our race. I can't imagine us even being here if feminism had caught on in the 16th century. We had hundreds of thousands of years in a matriarchy where life was nasty, short and brutish, and we went nowhere from millenium to millenium. Then we invented patriarchal religions and in the blink of an eye we arrived at where we are.
Sometimes I wonder why women don't bow down to us men when they pass us in the street so much they have to thank us for. And I think the ordinary woman has a vague sense of that. And somebody allowed a miniscule bunch of disaffected women to put it all at risk and they penetrated Media for the reasons I gave earlier and now everybody is confused.
"I got mixed up confusion,
Man, it's a killin' me."
They are unsure whether to praise a man or condemn him for flying home to witness the birth of his child and to hold his wife's hand in the delivery room, previously a female preserve, as if he is somehow responsible for the miracle when he could have been playing for England in a Test Match. Listening to the commentators discussing such a strange event it was easy to see that such a thing would never have entered their own heads in their own playing days. It opens the door for the soldiers to demand the same when they are away in the service of their country. And to demand a few months "maternity" leave.
He was on the Ovarian trolley and if he was a good bloke then why can't we all be good blokes?
Quote:And my first thought was to wonder if the story would have ended differently if there's been a male in the home.
I think it would have ended differently if feminism had been shot down when it first stuck its head over the parapet. The neighbours would have seen to that. Now they keep themselves to themselves because they have learned that things can spiral out of control if they don't.
I'm also not sure that a tragedy of that nature ought really to be discussed as a result of it having been read about in a newspaper one happened to see. One might suggest that the Police be given enough resources to respond to every case where someone calls up to complain about unruly youths. A few guys have been murdered for interfering in cases like that. But those are other stories.
Other factors were obviously in play.