@Philis,
Philis wrote:The topic is " can god condemn me to hell"
NOT
is the bible real is god real.
That's a very poor attempt to divert from 3 different things :
1. The real topic which is in the heading
"how can an "all loving" God condemn me to hell?"
2. Your own response to Francis, which you now claim was not what you were talking about with him (he was pretty much on topic - God is meant to be the essence of love/wisdom).
francis wrote:What father and what knowledge and wisdom?
Is a jealous, murderer father wise?
Philis wrote:I reject your anger and frustration..over and out.Stay with topics you know francis.
3. And my reponse, to which you pretend to give a response that should satisfy it...
Vikorr wrote:I don't see anger from Francis - I see a person (yourself) who doesn't understand what it is he believes in...a person who wants it to be true, but runs from the contradictions...
...For example - we know that ripping children to shreds for calling Elijah an old baldy is not love.
Francis wrote:The topic is " can god condemn me to hell"
NOT
is the bible real is god real
...but in fact ignore anything in it.
If you want to engage in debate...try answering the questions, instead of running from them, or diverting from them, or ignoring them...while pretending you are trying to be rational, or pretending you are answering them...others are giving you the courtesy of actually responding to what you are saying.
"Sheol", "Hades" - The common grave of mankind Heb. שאול (she'òhl) gr. ᾅδης (hàides), lat. infernus, sir. The places where shiul sixty-six Sheol appears in the New World Translation of the Hebrew Scriptures, "Sheol" occurs 66 times, that is, Ge 37:35, 42:38, 44:29, 31; Nu 16:30, 33, De 32 : 22; 1SA 2:6; 2SA 22:6, 1 Kings 2:6, 9; Job 7:9, 11:8, 14:13; 17:13, 16; 21:13, 24:19, 26:6 ; Sl 6:5, 9:17, 16:10, 18:5, 30:3, 31:17, 49:14, 14, 15, 55:15, 86:13, 88:3, 89:48; 116:3, 139:8, 141:7, Prov 1:12, 5:5, 7:27, 9:18, 15:11, 24; 23:14, 27:20, 30:16, and c 9: 10; Ca 8:6, Isa 5:14, [7:11]; 14:9, 11, 15; 28:15, 18; 38:10, 18; 57:9, Ezekiel 31:15, 16, 17 ; 32:21, 27; Hos 13:14, 14; Am 9:2; Gna 2:2; Aba 2:5. In the Hebrew Scriptures "Sheol" compare the 65 times that used in M, as well as in Isa 7 : 11 (see on NT.). In all cases, the New World Translation use "Sheol" to make the Hebrew word she'òhl. The Greek Septuagint generally renders she'òhl with hàides. Although several hypotheses have been advanced on the derivation of the Hebrew word she'òhl, it seems to derive from the Hebrew verb ׁשאל (sha'àl), which means "ask" or "request . This indicates that Sheol is the place (not a condition) which requests or demands all without distinction, since it receives in himself the dead of mankind. (See NTT. Ge at 37:35 and Isa 7:11). Sheol is in the earth, is always seen in relation to the dead and clearly means the common grave of mankind, or the region inland (non-marine) of the dead. In contrast to this, the Hebrew word means qèver a single grave or burial place. - Ge 23:4, 6, 9, 20. The ten places in which it appears Hades "Hades," which perhaps means "a place not seen," recurs ten times in the New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures, namely in Matthew 11: 23; 16:18; Lu 10:15, 16:23, Acts 2:27, 31; Ri 1:18, 6:8, 20:13, 14. In Acts 2:27, the quote that Peter makes Sl 16:10 shows that Hades is the equivalent of Sheol, and refers to the common grave of mankind (unlike the Greek word tàfos, a single grave). The Latin word infernus is corresponding to Hades (sometimes inferus). Means "what lies beneath, the lower region, and well apply to the grave. It is therefore an appropriate approximation of the greek and Hebrew terms. In the inspired Scriptures, the words "Sheol" and "Hades" are placed in connection with the death and the dead, not with life and living. (Re 20:13) In themselves, these words do not contain the concept of pleasure or pain, nor allude.
