Deb, I think Ricardo_Tizon said something about tearing up at the Olympics one year while listening to our anthem, feeling a sense of pride for the winning U.S. team. I think most of us can identify with that emotion. I have also felt a little weepy at hearing the anthem of another country, when that athlete did a spectacular job in winning the event.
In both cases a feeling of love of one's country was experienced, but it was also possible to feel a kind of love for someone from another country who has shown exceptional skill, courage and good sportsmanship.
Perc, I can vouch for the fact that Dys is a nonconformist, but I don't see how you can make most of the statements and you have made about him, by reading his posts objectively--without interjecting your own interpretations.
His politics are liberal, in the best sense of the word, his looks are outside the average person's; he also happens to be terrific in bed
, but those things don't make him a danger to society. He conforms to the law and is an excellent, law-abiding, citizen.
You continually call him an anarchist. You will not find any post by Dys in which he identifies himself as an anarchist. He has said that anarchy is the only recourse when a government has become tyrannical, but he never said that he wants to overthrow the United States government--he just wants to oust Bush in the next election.
He is a gentle, thoughtful man. I, on the other hand, can be downright nasty. That is why I generally refrain from posting on these threads--I have a very difficult time forcing myself to abstain from making insulting, if accurate, statements about those who seem to enjoy picking on others; taking their statements out of context, without regard to what they are actually saying. That kind of intellectual laziness is something I, personally, abhor and it certainly has no place in an honest discussion between people with opposing viewpoints.