Sofia wrote:Is it big? I can't waste my time on skinny penii.
hmm, it's spectacularly knobby.
Actually it's not and now I'm picturing warty peni. I must stop playing.
blatham wrote:I think it worth noting that in the midst of a conversation between two women, craven's man meat makes and appearance, and the two women but pause and carry on with the conversation.
Ah and to think fo all the times comments you made about yer bum and it's "supple" nature went ignored till I rescued it from oblivion. "I saved your ass."
My bum has n'er been oblived.
So was!
Here you even call them "vital" and it is totally oblived.
I've gotten a little lost here . . . are we to provide vital statistics about our penises in order to be ajudged partriotic? Is masturbation a patriotic or unpatriotic act? Will those penis enlargement e-mails which clog my inbox lead me to a new love and understanding of my country?
Can anyone enlighten me?
Setanta wrote:Is masturbation a patriotic or unpatriotic act?
The current administration deems it unpatriotic and claims that abstinence till marriage is the best policy when it comes to masturbation.
Democrats everywhere are masturbating furiously in protest.
Warty penii!!! Ewwwwwwwwwwww......
Vile propaganda!
Masturbation is a GOP standard! It is better to spend the tadpoles, than to make unwanted bairns.
set
Good questions! And tough to sort through them without help from Antonin Scalia
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Jul/07122003/commenta/74622.asp
Here you go, Sofia - if diatribes have to be long, you are probably right in saying you did not do it - Perception did - you merely agreed with it. If they don't have to be long, I would think that seemingly linking criticisms of patriotism with the view that it necessarily leads to Nazism as sufficiently diatribous - but I admit you wer eless so than my memory suggested.
"Craven wrote:
"As an aside I think Americans generally get far too carried away with the perceived perfection of our system".
I've been observing and biting my tongue----can't stomach it any more. Craven it could be that the hard working majority (not to be confused with the moral majority) harbor no illlusions about the perfection of our system-----it could be that they just believe it is better than any alternative.
Also I've heard you blast patriotism so many times I want to shake you until your eyes pop out----what is it about patriotism that sends you off on a rant? You are very intimidating on that particular issue which you have every right to do since you own the forum-----you seem to want to dominate it just as though it were your private playtoy-----maybe you want to step back and take a look.
Craven de Kere
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:09 am Post subject:
I don't like patriotism. Get over it. We don't have to agree.
Your accusation about wanting to "dominate" the forum is as silly as your wish to "shake me till my eyes pop out" is.
People will disagree with you in the future and I think there are more healthy ways to deal with it.
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:59 am Post subject:
(Aside - not meant to derail the debate - can states in the USA NOT make their own laws - about legalising marijuana or recognising gay marriages, for example?)
perception
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:20 am Post subject:
Craven
Disagreement is healthy and I thrive on it---obsessive criticism of a specific form of nationalistic behavior could be unhealthy-----I just wanted to distract you from the "attack" mode into the "introspective" mode.
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Never changing human nature keeps "messing" with our world----perception
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:29 am Post subject:
I am really suspicious of the motivations of the liberal establishment, and their aficianados' attempts to equate patriotism with Nazism. It is presumptuous and insulting."
Anna Quindlen wrote:The justice went on to warn of the imminent legal acceptance of such practices as bestiality, adultery and masturbation. Bestiality can be handled under animal-protection statutes, and adultery is best handled by conscience. And are there really laws against masturbation? Who are the masturbation police?
I just want to state for the record that Miss Cleo and i are just good friends, and that is perfectly normal for dogs to sleep with people they like.
LOL! When there is tension on a thread, how we all turn to sex! I guess it is the best tension reliever we know - when it isn't causing it.
Setanta - I have strong feelings about involving beings incapable of informed consent in these things.
I am watching you...
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:29 am Post subject:
I am really suspicious of the motivations of the liberal establishment, and their aficianados' attempts to equate patriotism with Nazism. It is presumptuous and insulting."
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Becoming angry that patriotism is equated to Nazism doesn't mean I am offended that people don't ascribe to my view of patriotism.
It shows there is one particular view of patriotism that angers me.
You lumped me in to a statement, unfairly characterizing my opinion.
Sofia - the aspect that amazed me was the "liberal establishment and their aficionados' attempts to equate patriotism with Nazism" - that doesn't strike you as being a pretty wild generalization? A little presumptuous and insulting? The whole liberal establishment, whatever that is, is attempting to equate patriotism with nazism? hello!? Not to mention their "aficionadoes" What are they?
hobitbob wrote:Defend: as in repel invaders, or prevent attacks by enemies. Not to ilegally invade other nations. The patirotism the far right gets all misty eyed over would have made the Nazis proud.
There are plenty more. I'll bring a few.
For the record, Hobitbob is not a member of the liberal establishment--he has not been paying his dues, and he's embarrassed all of us at far too many of the weekly bash-Bush parties we hold . . . what with his eating habits and the drinking . . . we've had to go to a cash bar just to discourage him . . .
Wow! This is "the whole liberal establishment"?
Sofia - individual people whom you characterize as liberals may have many opinions - including one, that I would consider silly, of viewing all patriotism as akin to Nazism.
My cavil with you is the thundering generalization.
OK, I DO think John Webb is a card-holder...
Quote:As a child, I was taught that America was the greatest nation on earth and the President our greatest citizen.
My faith in the nation and the people remains undiminished. However, even the truest of patriots must find it impossible to subscribe to the belief that lack of patriotism is failing to support the actions of a figure-head leader of a gang of corrupt, mass-murdering, concentration camp-building, election-rigging, nazis.
Hobitbob was also, as it happens, I think, referring to the patriotism of the far right - at least this seems to be a qualifiaction he is making. I am unsure if even this alleged member of the "liberal establishment" is making the claim you claim he is making.
