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Scientologies Founder Exposed

 
 
chai2
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 04:45 pm
Christian Science makes exceptions for some medical treatments. Members can wear eyeglasses and go to the dentist, and doctors often set broken bones and help patients during childbirth. Church members can take pain medications. All these remedies are considered temporary aids so that Christian Scientists can focus on the root of the problem, church officials said.

What? Do you think if someone who is a christian scientist breaks their leg, they don't get it set?
If they were driving a car and not wearing needed eyeglasses, and killed someone, would that be a valid defense in court?

poor eyesight is not a disease, neither is breaking your arm, or being pregnant.

It's unfortunate some people take their beliefs to extremes, like not wearing eyeglasses, but that's the the belief of people who follow that religion as a whole.

here's the link to their churches website....you'll see pictures of members screening past....I count at least 2 people wearing glasses.

http://www.tfccs.com/index.jhtml;jsessionid=T4LZJPZ2LMU5TKGL4L2SFEQ
I have heard however, that a lot of christian scientists, AND sciontologists, listen to the White Album on a regular basis.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 04:51 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

Christian Science makes exceptions for some medical treatments. Members can wear eyeglasses and go to the dentist, and doctors often set broken bones and help patients during childbirth. Church members can take pain medications. All these remedies are considered temporary aids so that Christian Scientists can focus on the root of the problem, church officials said.

What? Do you think if someone who is a christian scientist breaks their leg, they don't get it set?
If they were driving a car and not wearing needed eyeglasses,
and killed someone, would that be a valid defense in court?

poor eyesight is not a disease, neither is breaking your arm, or being pregnant.

It's unfortunate some people take their beliefs to extremes, like not wearing eyeglasses, but that's the the belief of people who follow that religion as a whole.

I have heard however, that a lot of christian scientists, AND sciontologists, listen to the White Album on a regular basis.



I doubt that anyone has done that.

What is the White Album ?
RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 12:17 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Hey OMG how have you been? Smile
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 01:36 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

Hey OMG how have you been? Smile
Fine, thank u.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 01:43 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

If this had been you Merry Andrew see how bizarre you would think his actions happen to be.

http://cosmedia.freewinds.cx/media/articles/grn090280.html
Sect framed journalist over 'bomb threats'
by David Beresford, The Guardian, 9 February 1980
Transcribed by Raymond Hill
In the third of a series on the Church of Scientology, David Beresford describes the Campaigns of revenge by the 'dirty tricks' section aimed at the movement's critics
ON MAY 19, 1973, a New York journalist, Paulette Cooper, was indicted before a federal grand jury on charges of sending bomb threats to the Church of Scientology.
In October 1973, in a legal move born of desperation, Ms Cooper agreed to take a truth serum test to prove her innocence. It worked and the state shelved the charges.
Four years later Ms Cooper was telephoned at her Manhattan apartment by the FBI. They had seized documents from the Church of Scientology and had learned that she had been framed by the sect over the bomb threats and had been the victim of a carefully planned operation aimed at driving her insane or having her gaoled.
Ms Cooper qualified as a target of Scientology's dirty tricks operations because had been an uncompromising critic of Scientology since December 1969, when her first article on the followers of L. Ron Hubbard was published by a British women's magazine. The holder of a master's degree in psychology, Ms Cooper had written a book about the sect. The Scandal of Scientology, published in 1971.
The seized Scientology documents show that in the course of their campaign of vilification against Ms Cooper the Scientologists:
1. Framed her on the bomb-threat charges, stealing stationery from her apartment to forge the threatening letter.
2. Sued her 14 times, at one stage themselves importing copies of her book to the UK to take advantage of Britain's notoriously tough libel laws.
3. Put her name on pornographic mailing lists.
4. Stole a legal note from her lawyer to gain an advantage in litigation.
5. Made spurious allegations to the internal revenue service about her father's tax affairs.
6. Sent agents to befriend her date her and spy on her.
7. Wrote graffiti in public places giving her telephone number and address.
The seized Scientology documents have now been placed on public record in Washington.
Over the past two days the Guardian has published aspects of the documentation showing how the sect ran an internal intelligence service, which used dirty tricks techniques, under the control of senior executives at their international headquarters in Britain.
One of the Washington documents is a 10-page memorandum, headed Operation Freakout and dated April 1, 1976. It shows other plans to frame Ms Cooper on bomb-threat charges.
The memo declares, as its main target: "To get PC (Paulette Cooper) incarcerated in a mental institution or gaol, or at least to hit her so hard that she drops her attacks."
The memo sets out four "channels" (lines of attack) to be used against the author, who is Jewish and has a sister living in Israel.
The first line of attack was to make a telephone call to two Arab consulates in New York. The memo says that the caller should sound like Ms Cooper and instructs that her conversation should go as follows:
"I just got back from Israel (pronounced the way it is pronounced in Israel) I've just seen what you ******* bastards do. At least you're not going to kill my sister. I can get away with anything. I'm going to bomb you bastards. Say something in Jewish/swear or mumble something Jewish."
The second line of attack on Ms Cooper under "Operation Freakout" was to be the composition of an anonymous letter to an Arab consulate, saying: "All of you are destroying Israel. You're just like them. My sister loved you bastards. I was there"I saw the wonderful people. Nobody can touch me. I'm going to kill you bastards. I am going to bomb you. Kissinger is a traitor. I'll bomb him to (sic)."
The third line of attack was to create an incident in a laundry near Ms Cooper's flat. A Scientology agent, disguised as Ms Cooper, was to enter the laundry. The memo instructs that she is to act very confused.
"Says I'm PC (Paulette Cooper). Do I have any clothes here? Clerk says no. FSM (field staff member, a covert Scientology agent) demands clerk checks. Clerk comes back. Says no again. FSM screams: "You're crazy, my name is PC, check again! When the clerk says no or whatever he does, FSM goes PTS3 (a Scientology term for acting crazy).
"You're one of them! I'll kill you. You're a dirty Arab, You ******* bastards. I'll bomb you, I'll bomb the Arabs. I'll bomb the president. I'll kill that traitor Kissinger. You're all against me."
The memo adds that at this stage, if a piece of Ms Cooper's clothing is available, it should be dropped on the floor of the laundry and the Scientology agent should leave, escaping in a getaway car around the corner. A call was then to be made to the FBI, reporting what had happened in the laundry.
The Washington documentation shows that over the years regular reports on the progress of the campaigns against Ms Cooper were made by the Scientology intelligence service in America to the sect's headquarters at East Grinstead, Sussex.

Did it work ?





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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 06:35 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

A co-worker of mine many years ago was trying to get others co-workers involved with the scientology cult and I printed out a numbers of copies of the fisher papers. and share them around. In any case I think that was the name of the paper listing the secret of the cult and it levels.

This gentleman was annoy at me and I am fairly sure my name is listed as a results in some data base of their as a minor WOG.


Not that surprising to anyone who has run across Scientologists grabbing people at street corners to take a "personality test" on a bus headed who knows where.

I'm hardly an advocate of Scientology, but I'm not sure there is a whole lot that is interesting in a bunch of people repeatedly agreeing that they are kooks.

Of course, who can tell if some dupe of Scientology who has come to question his or her faith may have stumbled upon this thread and thus been saved.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 06:48 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

BillRM wrote:

A co-worker of mine many years ago was trying to get others co-workers involved
with the scientology cult and I printed out a numbers of copies of the fisher papers. and share them around.
In any case I think that was the name of the paper listing the secret of the cult and it levels.

This gentleman was annoy at me and I am fairly sure my name is listed as a results in some data base of their as a minor WOG.


Not that surprising to anyone who has run across Scientologists grabbing people at street corners
to take a "personality test" on a bus headed who knows where.

Yeah; thay had me take that personality test.
I remember the guy complaining that I did not speak
in "funny accents". I argued with him, just for the hell of it.

I argue even when I don 't get paid for it.





David
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 06:54 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Ahh yes, the cult of personality... Smile
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 07:58 am
The only thing it measured is whether eventual Ipods can be powered by the electricity in our body. Of course, you've already got earphones plugged into your ears, so you'd have the plug the thing into your nose to get power. Let them peddle their snake oil from their up-scale carts until enough people wise up to the fact that they've been sucked into a pyramid marketing scam. It's a version of the Peter Principal, but it's how good a salesperson one is selling the expensive program which determines how high up they get in the company. Yes, it's a company -- not a religion. Inner spirit really has nothing to do with any religion, let along a commercial enterprise selling L. Ron Hubbard's sllly ideas.
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2009 06:31 am
@Lightwizard,
Static electricity was strong enough to blow up the Hindenburg...
Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2009 06:45 am
@RexRed,
But it was filled with an explosive gas! Not that Scientology isn't just a lot of gas (that wouldn't run a powered tricycle).

Lest we forget, Ayn Rand, the consummate objectivist was moved to create an amalgam of pagan religions into her own private religion. Not much different. Considering she really wasn't that great a writer of fiction -- just some bold ideas inside that were revolutionary in "The Fountainhead" and merely revealing in "Atlas Shrugged," which I've always title, "Atlas Shrugged, and shrugged, and shrugged, and shrugged, signifying nothing."
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2009 07:05 am
@Lightwizard,
Quote:
But it was filled with an explosive gas! Not that Scientology isn't just a lot of gas (that wouldn't run a powered tricycle).


Hahaha!... Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 20 Mar, 2010 08:37 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35965982#35775749
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 14 Feb, 2011 09:37 pm
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/02/14/2043250/Paul-Haggis-vs-the-Church-of-Scientology?from=headlines
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