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The First Guys on Mars: Big Sacrifice

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 03:30 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
First, colonizing Mars does not constitute interstellar colonization. Second, i did not say that we have to bring anyone back, but certainly we would initially be setting up a base station, from which i suspect the original crews would, sooner or later be brought back.

I said that this is one of the reasons i find the Fermi paradox naive. The other is that it ignores the cost (although, obviously, that cost is in resources and energy, it is not unreasonable to think of it in terms of dollars) which will be entailed to protect large numbers of people over the time required to get them to Mars with all of the material they will need for survival. Mars is probably a good candidate for colonization, just because the cost would be manageable. That would not necessarily be the case with an attempt at interstellar colonization. But with Mars, there is no magnetic field to protect colonists from cosmic radiation, so it would be necessary to locate them and all of their food production resources underground, which would greatly increase the cost.

But, as i say, it's still probably the best candidate.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 03:54 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

i'm mazed by this planet every time i walk around my garden and property,
and i've been here over 46 years, i think i'd take a long time to get bored on mars

lots of audio books, ipod videos, maybe check out some local radio stations

and endless miles of no people at all, sounds like heaven

If that 's what jingles your chimes, then YEAH!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 03:56 pm
@Sglass,
Sglass wrote:

I believe someone is ou there watching me.

From Mars ?

U must be a very interesting guy !
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 03:59 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Quote:

U coud bring that book along,
and Ray Bradbury 's book.


Actually, I recommend you read it and the two sequels.
It directly deals with the exact topic you are discussing.

Cycloptichorn

I read his Martian Chronicles around when I was in hi school.

I preferred Azimov and Heinlein
djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 04:05 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
i have nothing against people, i like meeting new people and observing people, but i can also live quite comfortably in my own head, i'd probably do quite well stranded on a desert island
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 04:06 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Quote:

U coud bring that book along,
and Ray Bradbury 's book.


Actually, I recommend you read it and the two sequels.
It directly deals with the exact topic you are discussing.

Cycloptichorn

I read his Martian Chronicles around when I was in hi school.

I preferred Azimov and Heinlein


I was recommending Kim Stanley Robinsons' Red Mars and the two sequels to it, not Bradbury's book - though that is also fine reading.

Cycloptichorn
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 06:03 pm


Another way to express the issue is:
if u r dropped on a bleak desert that everyone has been wondering about
thru out human history, and gazing up in awe,
how long will it take for the emotional thrill to abate,
in the face of fending off deadly sandstorms, both extremes of temperature and no decent restaurants ?





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djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 06:09 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
love a decent restaurant, but if not ever going to one again meant i got to go to another planet i'd leave tomorrow

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 29 May, 2009 10:00 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

love a decent restaurant,
but if not ever going to one again meant i got to go to another planet i'd leave tomorrow

I love and support the Space Program,
but it is a fact that the nicest place in the solar system is under us.
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