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WHEN I HEAR OF MURDERS: I WISH VICTIMS HAD GUNS

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2009 07:17 pm
@NickFun,
It was your acquaintance's fault he died, nick. Per David's philosophy, he should have anticipated and shot everyone on the block before the robber pulled his gun out.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2009 07:35 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

WHEN I HEAR OF GUNS: I WISH GUN NUTS HAD BRAINS

Thanks for posting, but I suspect that u coud have
done a better job of representing your position.

MY position is that in a predatory emergency
ideally the victim shoud have the means to fix it
immediately at hand.

Am I correct that u have some open space there, in Canada?
With some predatory animals there? Yes?

I saw on TV of the misadventure of an elderly couple;
2 elderly joggers out in the hinterland. Sadly, thay were both unarmed.
The old man was set upon by a cougar, who carved him up on the scene.
It might have been painful.
His partner, elderly woman (maybe wife) eventually beat off the animal,
after a long struggle. I think she used something as a club.

Thay 'd have been better off if she 'd just put the muzzle
of a .44 revolver into the cougar 's ear n touched it off.
That is my opinion, Richard.

U can side with the cougar, if u wish.





David


Your arguments get weaker and weaker.

Since 1970 there has been an average of 14 cougar attacks per year on people in the entire U.S.

Scientific review of records on attacks by cougars on humans in the United States and Canada from 1890 through 1990 indicated there were 53 cougar attacks on humans during this period. There were nine attacks that resulted in 10 human deaths, and 44 non-fatal attacks.

I suppose your position is that everybody should carry a gun because a cougar might get you. You are too funny.

Did you know that a simple stick will, in many cases, be enough to scare off a cougar? Also, common sense in where one ventures and knowledge of the dangers is sufficient, in many cases, to prevent the possibility of attacks by cougars, bears, or any other predatory animal.

BTW...it is good etiquette to address someone by their user name.

WHEN I HEAR OF GUNS: I WISH GUN NUTS HAD BRAINS
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2009 07:59 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

If the bad guy is not killed on-the-job by a successful victim,
and the b.g. is captured by police, I suggest that he be BANISHED
from the North American Continent, with sneaking back in prohibited on pain of death.


and what country/continent do you think is going to accept them? Do you really think that the U.S. is still that powerful - that other countries will put up with the donation of American white trash?

Maybe other, more economically powerful, countries will demand reciprocity - what do you propose doing with a wholesale delivery of Chinese criminals when they arrive in the U.S.

you need to think these things through, OSD.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2009 09:32 pm
@ehBeth,
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/Intrepid2/6a7e53fe.gif
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2009 10:19 pm
@ehBeth,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

If the bad guy is not killed on-the-job by a successful victim,
and the b.g. is captured by police, I suggest that he be BANISHED
from the North American Continent, with sneaking back in prohibited on pain of death.


ehBeth wrote:
Quote:
and what country/continent do you think is going to accept them?

That is alien to my concept, tho it might be possible
that we coud work something out; many countries woud like
some ez cash for their assistance; money talks persuasively.
It really does; I 've had a lot of experience with that.
It gets good and eager co-operation.

America owns islands in the Aleutian chain
that are closer to Japan than to America.
My concept of banishment does not necessarily entail confinement.
I 'd plainly mark them to indicate their toxicity
(referring to a history of malicious recidivated violence, sane or not)
after our having taken their fingerprints & DNA samples.
Then abandon them; I 'm willing to negotiate qua the possibility
of dropping off occasional sandwiches.
If thay leave, then possibly bleeding heart liberal countries
might take pity on them (which I do not recommend)
and accept them in, in return for which thay 'd very likely keep recidivating.




Quote:
Do you really think that the U.S. is still that powerful -

Yes.
Demonstrably it is,
but that does not matter; its a moot point. That woud be indecent.
We are not criminals to prey on other countries like that;
(only counter-predation, in self defense).

Quote:

that other countries will put up
with the donation of American white trash?

Only a very small percentage of the trash is white.
When I was on the job, in the morning I used to see
daisy chains of prisoners being led to arraignment
by bailiffs. If any of them were white, he contrasted
very starkly from the others. It looks like something
u 'd have expected to see before the Civil War.


ehBeth wrote:
Quote:
Maybe other, more economically powerful, countries will demand reciprocity -
what do you propose doing with a wholesale delivery of Chinese criminals when they arrive in the U.S.

That is what the military defense of American sovereignty is for,
but again: I woud never invade another country to use it as a toxic waste dump. That is unconscionable.


In my vu, the only justification for invading
another country is self defense from that country.





David

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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2009 10:33 pm
@NickFun,
NickFun wrote:

I was acquainted with a man who owned a gun. He was held up himself at gunpoint.
As he reached into his pants to pull out his weapon
the robber blew him away. Just think, if he didn't have a gun he'd be alive today.

What leads u to believe THAT, Nick ??
On many, many occasions, unarmed victims have surrendered
their valuables and were murdered for the fun of it
(as per the confessions of the killers)
and also to eliminate unfriendly witness testimony or complaints to the police.

Given a choice between going out while begging n grovelling for mercy
or shooting the bad guy
(at least making your best effort), I 'd choose the latter.

Do u prefer the former, Nick ?
Do u prefer the former, Ed ?
Do u prefer the former, Richard ?
Do u prefer the former, ehBeth ?

I 'd rather give him a one gun salute.





David
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 12:11 am
Just get rid of the goddamned guns and the bad guys won't have them either, since most of the ones used in crime are either acquired legally or stolen from someone who had them legally (burglaries of legal guns is something like the number three source of crime guns). If there are no more "legal" guns, pretty soon there will be no guns in crimes either. Of course we're going to have to wait for a sane majority on the Supreme Court before we can look to that happening. And anybody who equates having multiple guns and only that with "freedom" has a pretty weird definition of freedom.
saab
 
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Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 12:39 am
David and Co see themselves as heroes in a given situation, which never will happen. I think basicly they are cowards, who try to overcome the cowardness by clinging to their gun. A very dangerous combination.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 03:07 am
@saab,
"saab" wrote:
Quote:
David and Co see themselves as heroes in a given situation, which never will happen.
I think basicly they are cowards, who try to overcome the cowardness by clinging to their gun.
A very dangerous combination.

This alien 's posted thoughts are false and badly disorganized.
It appears unlikely that he understands the meanings
of the words that he has used. It seems that the alien
is not familiar with the English language.

I certainly have never seen myself as a hero,
nor have I any desire to be one, but long ago
I chose to be prepared to address emergencies.
Apparently this alien considers that to be cowardly
and that brave men are unprepared.

It might be humorous to see him in a situation
wherein he needed a gun but did not have one.



David
saab
 
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Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 03:36 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I think this alien is familiar with the English language.

It might be humorous to see him in a situation wherein he needed a gun but did not have one.

I´ll tell you it was really humorous. Walking down a park four rather strange looking male youth came towards me - looking at my handbag. What can I do - one woman against four men. I started to jump up and down making strange noices and waving my hands as if I were a monkey. Then we all started to laugh.
Wasn´t a good laugh better than some dead kids?

Half my Danish family was in the resistance - and that partly without weapons and still doing a worth while job. Fighting your enemy is not always a question of guns.
A person like you would probably have been completely useless in the resistance.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 03:45 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack"

Quote:

Just get rid of the goddamned guns and the bad guys won't have them either,
since most of the ones used in crime are either acquired legally
or stolen from someone who had them legally (burglaries of legal
guns is something like the number three source of crime guns).

Yeah, that 's because the prohibitions against alcohol in the 1920s
and against marijuana now worked out so great, right ?

U must think that no one coud get any because of the law.
U really shoud take a moment
to consider what u are going to write before u post it,
because u can 't POSSIBLY be that stupid to not know better.
Guns were made for centuries before electric tools
rendered their manufacture much faster and easier.
If (by some evil magic) guns disappeared,
criminals and their future victims who had enuf intelligence to wish
to be able to defend themselves woud make new ones
(the engineering plans are freely available) or visit a local gunsmith,
legal or underground. Guns have even been made IN PRISONS,
across America.

Quote:
If there are no more "legal" guns,
pretty soon there will be no guns in crimes either.

I refuse to believe that u are really that stupid to believe that
anyone who wishes can 't make one or buy one if he is too lazy to make it.





Quote:
Of course we're going to have to wait for a sane majority
on the Supreme Court before we can look to that happening.

Here, u advocate that the judiciary tell lies about the Constitution
and usurp power, taking over the country.
As I remember, u are only a Canadian.
Freedom means nothing in Canadia.



Quote:

And anybody who equates having multiple guns and only that
with "freedom" has a pretty weird definition of freedom.

Sovereignty and supremacy in the individual citizen
is the CORNERSTONE of freedom; there are also a few other,
less important stones, not "only that" as u choose to put it.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 04:06 am
@saab,
saab wrote:

Quote:

I think this alien is familiar with the English language.

Then will u please post the English language so as to be INTELLIGIBLE ?
That means that we can figure out what u mean.



Quote:
It might be humorous to see him in a situation
wherein he needed a gun but did not have one.



Quote:

I´ll tell you it was really humorous.
Walking down a park four rather strange looking male youth came towards me - looking at my handbag. What can I do - one woman against four men. I started to jump up and down making strange noices and waving my hands as if I were a monkey. Then we all started to laugh.

Wasn´t a good laugh better than some dead kids?

ONLY if thay did not rob or kill someone else
after thay stopped laffing.
It did not occur to me that u are a woman; that explains it.
It also did not occur to me to act like a monkey
when I found a need to defend myself; revealing my revolver
was sufficient to induce the bad fellows to flee.




Quote:

Half my Danish family was in the resistance - and that partly without weapons and still doing a worth while job. Fighting your enemy is not always a question of guns.
A person like you would probably have been completely useless in the resistance.

Upon what basis have u assessed the probabilities ?





David

saab
 
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Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 04:48 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I will post the English language so as to be INTELLIGIBLE, when you have learned to spell English.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 05:01 am
@saab,
saab wrote:

I will post the English language so as to be INTELLIGIBLE,
when you have learned to spell English.

I spell CORRECTLY; the paradigmatic way is rong.





David
saab
 
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Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 05:07 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Ai spell korrektli; the paradigmatik wei is rong
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 06:24 am
@saab,
saab wrote:

Ai spell korrektli; the paradigmatik wei is rong

Yeah; thay did the exact same thing to Teddy Roosevelt about 100 years ago.
Thay vilified him in the press that way.
Tho he was a very popular President, he was stopped by the resistence.

There r examples of the hate mail that he got from non-fonetic spellers
in his exhibit at the American Museum of Natural History




David
saab
 
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Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 07:48 am
@OmSigDAVID,
There is a difference in phonetic spelling and simplified spelling, which was started by the " Simplified Spelling Board".
Phonetic spelling is still used in most dictionary to show how a word is pronounced. The alphabet and phonetic signs are not always the same.

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saab
 
  1  
Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 09:02 am
@OmSigDAVID,

Then will u please post the English language......
written in phonetic

wi l ju: pli:z poust di inglish laengwidz........

OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 09:47 am
@saab,
saab wrote:


Then will u please post the English language......
written in phonetic

wi l ju: pli:z poust di inglish laengwidz........



We can do better than that.
saab
 
  1  
Reply Mon 27 Apr, 2009 09:56 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Fine, then do better than a dictionary....
 

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