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Wed 15 Apr, 2009 07:33 am
Y DID T'PAU WITHHOLD THE INFORMATION FROM KIRK,
UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE?
She did not tell him that the fite was "to the death"
until it had begun?
Y not ?
Did she DISLIKE Kirk, because he was an OUTWORLDER?
(Was that a <gasp> emotional decision ?)
Was she a homicidal zenofobe ?
Y did Spock join in this conspiracy of silence ?
(We all know that the reason was that the writers wanted to inject drama,
but within the storyline, Y did thay keep him ignorant of this?)
Did thay believe that his getting killed or killing Spock
was of trivial significance ?
Y did thay use such awkward, primitive weapons, instead of fasers?
Was it LOGICAL to cling to such old, non-useful traditions, like non-fonetic spelling?
I ve been trying to figure this out since around the last 40 years,
pacing back n forth n forth n back, sometimes diagonally.
David
i don't think it mattered much if she told him, once he was chosen he was probably bound to fight, probably facing death anyway if he refused
as for traditional weapons, well it's just that tradition, and ceremony
i think that t'pring, choosing kirk as her champion, was testing spocks vulcanity, had his human side overwhelmed his vulcan side, would he refuse to fight, as situation that would likely have lead to banishment, either self or sanctioned, or death (not sure of the rules of vulcan society), perhaps t'pring thought this the best choice, spock would be gone and kirk alive, must have screwed things up a bit when the fight proceeded
@djjd62,
Capitalize the opening "i" and the "a" in "as".
Semi-colon after "him".
Full stop at the end of each sentence.
You're welcome <
off to get a life>.
@lmur,
tou, as they say, che
i can't get behind davids phonetic thing, but i'd gladly give up capitalization and more redundant grammatical usages
For the same reason why you wouldn't explain a custom you'd known about since early childhood - it simply wouldn't occur to you to explain it.
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
For the same reason why you wouldn't explain a custom you'd known about since early childhood -
it simply wouldn't occur to you to explain it.
To someone from
another planet ?
Granted, she should have, but I can see her not remembering to explain a custom she and everyone around her had understood since early childhood.
@Brandon9000,
It frightens me that I know exactly what you're all talking about.
Might be the T'Pau withheld info just to mess with Kirk's head/Spock's head (seeing how he was 1/2 human). See the show,
Star Trek Enterprise, which takes place before that and shows the Vulcans as being rather obstructionist.
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:Y DID T'PAU
Is this Khmer? Or Vietnamese?
@dagmaraka,
dagmaraka wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:Y DID T'PAU
Is this Khmer? Or Vietnamese?
English n Vulcanian, albeit with traces of an American accent
@jespah,
jespah wrote:
It frightens me that I know exactly what you're all talking about.
Might be the T'Pau withheld info just to mess with Kirk's head/Spock's head (seeing how he was 1/2 human). See the show, Star Trek Enterprise, which takes place before that and shows the Vulcans as being rather obstructionist.
OFF TOPIC:
JESPAH,
did u once post something about mental processes involving happiness
over a period of time ?
You all forget one thing.
Spock was suffering the effects of Pon Farr, and his faculties were clowded by the overwhelming desire to mate.
He would not have been able to inform Kirk that the fight was to the death because his entire mind and body was focused on one goal.
When T'pring chose Kirk, she did so knowing that no matter what, she would win.
It was only the trickery of Dr McCoy that saved Kirk, and that was something that T'pring had not factored in.
@mysteryman,
i didn't think of the effects of pon farr on spock, but i did address the fact that t'pring choosing kirk was in her favour
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:Y DID T'PAU WITHHOLD THE INFORMATION FROM KIRK, UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE?
Because she was so familiar with their own tradition and culture that it simply never occurred to her that "to the death" wouldn't be assumed. It's a plot device which indicated just how deeply entrenched Vulcans were into their culture, and how passionately they embraced this particular ritual.
OmSigDAVID wrote:Was it LOGICAL to cling to such old, non-useful traditions, like non-fonetic spelling?
It is illogical to use phonetic spelling because its basic premise results in a loss of information otherwise inherent in the language. Not only are words conceptualized by their meaning, but also by their shape and style. The human mind (with practice) learns to recognize words instead of "reading" them, which allows much faster input. So breaking the standard spelling patterns only hinders reading and comprehension. And then there's the problem of Heteronyms (words with the same pronunciation, but different spellings and different meanings)...
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
i don't think it mattered much if she told him, once he was chosen he was probably bound to fight, probably facing death anyway if he refused
as for traditional weapons, well it's just that tradition, and ceremony
This is wrong, because T'Pau told Kirk:
Quote:T'Pring is within her rights, but our laws and customs are
not binding on thee. Thee are free to delicline with no harm on
thyself."
@Brandon9000,
well it's been more than 30 years since i've seen the show
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