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Advice on purchasing a revolver

 
 
roger
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 12:44 pm
@joefromchicago,
joefromchicago wrote:

What do you plan on stopping?


I gather it's mostly for the collection, so it doesn't make much difference. That being the case, I recently saw a S&W chambered for the .460 S&W. It won't lack for punch, and the man that lift it won't need a gun, anyway.
George
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 12:49 pm
@roger,
Quote:
I gather it's mostly for the collection, so it doesn't make much difference. . .

But I believe the collection is there with the intent of being used when/if the
time comes.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 01:11 pm
@George,
In that case, I would have to agree with Gungasnake. Too heavy, too much recoil, too loud (to the point of causing permenant hearing loss), and I'll add, too much penetration for anything less than brown bear - and that's what they make rifles for.
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 05:10 pm
The .38 is a good all around, medium sized caliber, and it's still very popular for home protection.

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Something a bit different....just to look at fellas

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Revolvers/Medusa_Model_47.htm
roger
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 06:28 pm
@2PacksAday,
Right, 2Packs. I've really been waiting for a 9mm revolver.
2PacksAday
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 07:05 pm
@roger,
Isn't there a thread about 9mm revolvers....I don't remember if that was the actual topic, but I remember saying that I had never seen or heard of one.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 07:16 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

joefromchicago wrote:

What do you plan on stopping?


I gather it's mostly for the collection, so it doesn't make much difference.

It makes a big difference if he wants to stop a vampire. I recommend this:

http://www.antiquetrader.com/upload/contents/290/field_1742/Vampire-killing-kit_sm%20QU%2011-08.JPG
A complete and authentic vampire killing kit " made around 1800 and complete with stakes, mirrors, a gun with silver bullets, crosses, a Bible, holy water, candles and even garlic, all housed in a handsome American walnut case with a carved cross on top
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 07:29 pm
Some of you might be thinking of buying a first ever firearm and that be a pistol............. Here's a bit of the info you might need.

All firearms up to around 1880 or thereabouts used black powder; modern firearms use smokeless powder, which is much more powerful. About 50% of black powder turned into smoke and grime, the other half into expanding gases to propel a bullet forward; modern smokeless powder is more like 99% or more turning into gases to propel the bullet.

The big pistol cartridges you see in revolvers arose in the black powder age. They killed people then; fill one of them with modern powder and a bullet in front of it, and you have a gun for killing tyrannosaurs and giant space aliens.

The much smaller cartridges for modern semiauto pistols arose in the smokeless powder age and are totally adequate for any normal purpose.

Cops often prefer revolvers and some people prefer revolvers for home defense because they are simpler and relatively more foolproof. They only have the five or six shots however; reloading is time consuming.

Semiautos to my thinking are more than reliable enough if you use them properly, can hold more than twice as many shots, and can be reloaded by simply pulling one magazine out and popping another in. That was the original idea.

There's another big consideration about semiauto pistols which most people miss, i.e. how do they work and to what extent does that affect accuracy. Above a certain level of size, most semiauto pistols use the locking system which John Browning invented for the US Army 45 and that does impact accuracy somewhat. Without that, i.e. in order to have a 45 semiauto and a simple blowback mechanism, you'd need a spring so heavy that most people would not be able to cock the pistol.

What I recommend would be the largest semiauto you could buy with a fixed barrel and a simple blowback mechanism, which is going to be a 380 or, possibly, one of those slightly more exotic pistols which Beretta and Taurus make which use 9mm ammo with a fixed barrel and an exotic locking system.

Normally that would mean to buy some sort of a decent 380 on gunbroker.com or at some gunshow, and then find the heaviest ammo I could for it and fire a couple of hundred rounds with it to make totally certain that it never jams or fails to operate with that ammo.

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.asp?SearchResults.asp?SearchType=0&Keywords=380&Cat=3026

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/122111000/122111394/pix906005406.jpg





gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 2 Feb, 2009 07:48 pm
This would be the latest incarnation of Beretta's heavier semiauto pistol with a barrel which might rotate but does not move up and down like the Browning mechanism, and thus figures to be more accurate:

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=121167247
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 06:38 am
@gungasnake,
Gungaanake if you can not take care of a problem with five or six rounds going down range then you need something more powerful then a handgun in the first place! I would suggest a 12 guage pump shotgun for dealing with such situations.

A revolver does not jam and for that very reason in a home defend situation where your threat model is not normally a long drawn out gun battle but a point blank fire fight a revolver is to be prefer.

Even the model 1911 will jam as anyone who been to a gun range with one can tell you and my S&W 357 revolver have never never fail to place a bullet down range at the pull of it trigger.
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