Hey Bicyclists

Could we find a sub zero cold section of hell and toss him in naked?

Is that how liberal numbnuts deal with their insecurities? Tie them up?

Just an FYI fuckwits, but the US average commute time is 50 minutes round trip (in a car). Mine's a little over an hour, about 37 miles each way, going 70MPH (we don't have very heavy traffic). It would take you, on a snowy day, about 3-4 hours each way on a bike, and that's if you could find an already plowed road that allows bicycles.

So perhaps Cyclo wouldn't like it here - which is a good thing.

Mine's about 45 minutes on a good day (23 miles). It takes about 1.75 hours door to door. I would estimate that in our current 3 degree conditions with snow on the ground (but most all major roads plowed) I could make the trip in about 2.25 hours.

I often ride the bike in one day, take the train home, take the train in the next day, and ride the bike home that night.

Good exercise.

CJ, I think the point is that you don't need to be an asshole to people you disagree with.

You have some valid concerns and some valid positions (as does the other side). You don't need to call people fucktards to have an argument or get your point across. There ARE fucktards on both sides of the isle here, and since 11/4 you have really started being one of them (but by far not the only one).

Just my opinion of course, but I wish you'd go back to being the voice of opposition with valid points/concerns/posts, and not this characture of something else entirely.

Why? All is lost. Lock and load.

The chimps are in charge of the zoo.

In America, I don't ride my bike in the winter. In Germany, that was fairly easy: We had bikepaths all over Munich, and the city did a great job getting the snow off of them.

Of course, some kind of pro-car ideology prevents most American cities from building a dense network of bike paths. And some kind of anti-government ideology prevents them from providing top-notch quality in public services such as snow removal. I think cars-only winters are here to stay for yet another few years. But in the long run, ideologies can lose their appeal, and policy can be changed. I'm looking forward to riding my bike to work through the New Jersey winter of 2018/2019.

You could always try living closer to where you work, or do what Maporsche does and only ride in every other day; we have several people here at Berkeley who do exactly that.

'average' commute time is pretty much meaningless in this conversation. For some, b/c of their physical injury, necessity to drive as part of their job, or their home's location, can't commute by bike or bus or anything but a car. Great. I don't have an issue with that and neither do most bike enthusiasts. But there are many people who live in areas who can ride a bike to work, but drive instead...

The weather, even when it's cold, isn't a factor unless you're determined to make it one, 95% of the time.

More than anything else, I must say; it seems that you believe that challenging people to knock off the chip on your shoulder is entertaining and a productive use of your time. And then when they do, you get surly and pissy. Not very adult, cj.

Cycloptichorn

Munich ? ! ? ! ?

Oh wait . . . i already knew you were a crypto-Nazi socialist subversive . . . i'm sure it will only be a matter of time before you're riding your bike in New Jersey . . . and subverting out innocent American youth . . . from there, it's a short step to sapping our precious bodily fluids . . .

From another forum (you bicyclists are universally loved):

by Hoochmama, 12/9/08 6:18 ET

http://www.mlive.com/flintjournal/index.ssf/2008/12/city_of_flint_to_get_525000_fr.html#more

JUST FRIGGIN GREAT..no money for road salt, state parks and a billion other things....BUT WE GOT 525,000 FOR GOD D$%^ bike path is Cess POOL Crime MECCA FLINT!!!!!

Call you STATE representative or Senator and Get this funding SQUASHED LIKE A BUG

cjhsa, our country is getting fatter and fatter and our dependence on oil is getting worse and worse, do you really have a problem with people wanting to get some exercise outdoors or use an alternative form of transportation?

None whatsoever. You're missing the point.

point being picking a fight.

Fight was picked a long time ago by your lunatic friend cyclopunk. But as usual, left wingers want to punish someone for retaliating. Bad cj... you shouldn't hit back... just take it and go tell on him.... **** THAT.

I'm not attacking you for fighting back...please keep on.... we have a pool going on about when the brain cells that allow you to type will get knocked out... and when you lose the ability to type if that will also eliminate your ability to pull a trigger...or wrap your fingers around your dick to masturbate to pictures of Unca Ted.... I've got you going out Feb. 11, 2009.

As opposed to you, whose brain cells were obviously destroyed long ago in some sort of narcotic and alcohol fueled bender.

Lol! Best of luck to you.

The troll is hungry tonight, it seems.

I picked this fight long ago?

Cycloptichorn

You know when I was working 17 miles from my home I did enjoy biking to work as the time of the trip counted against my weekly exercise requirements and only added 30 or 40 minutes to the trip compare to a car.

I also did greatly enjoy bragging about not using a drop of gasoline and biking in the early hours silent is a far better way to start a day then listening to the engine and radio of my car.

With all that said I can not see myself cycling 34 miles round trip in the kind of weather that Detroit was “enjoying” lately unless my life depended on so doing.

Tomorrow I am going to wheel out my trek 510 touring bike and celebrate being in a warm climate once more.