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Riots in Athens (Greece)

 
 
Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2008 12:51 pm
Two police officers have been arrested after the killing of a 15-year-old boy in Athens which sparked riots in the Greek capital.

Violence has also flared in the northern cities of Salonika, Komotini and Ioannina.
In Salonika a dozen banks and shops were torched by a crowd protesting at the teenager's death.

According to witnesses, the shooting occurred after a small group of youths threw stones at a police patrol car.
They said an officer responded by firing three shots, hitting one of them in the chest.



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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2008 12:52 pm
http://i36.tinypic.com/357p0ea.jpg

Link to AP-video (via LA Times)

Latest news from the BBC
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2008 01:41 pm
Nobody wants a police state. Least of all, a police state that uses their guns when it's not justified.
Foofie
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2008 09:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Nobody wants a police state. Least of all, a police state that uses their guns when it's not justified.


Your point above may be valid; however, it does not justify rioting. Innocent people are hurt, and that only exacerbates any wrong that might have been originally committed.

Throwing rocks at police cars is not standard behavior in cities. Why the anger towards the police. I wonder if there is much more to this story that would take a book to understand?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2008 11:14 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
Why the anger towards the police. I wonder if there is much more to this story that would take a book to understand?


No, I don't think so. It's enough when you followed the international sections in the papers.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2008 11:27 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Greek society has become multicultural. During the last few years, waves of
repatriated Greeks and foreign economic migrants have arrived in Greece,
following the dramatic developments in Eastern and South Eastern Europe and
the collapse of Real Existing Socialism.
The newcomers’ difficulties have simply added to the already existing economic
and social problems of Greek society. Their economic uncertainty has led to
examples of aggressive behaviour and additional social unrest.
The economic measures taken by the state (green card, loans, plots of land)
provided a solution to some issues. However, the most serious problem " that of
employment and finding work " had not been tackled. The social system did not
ensure the foreigners had a job, and a good one at that. Therefore, they found
work that did not allow them to effectively deal with their economic problems.
And that is a more general problem not only in Greece but also all over the
world, which has a particular impact on these disadvantaged social groups.

http://ressources-cla.univ-fcomte.fr/gerflint/SE-europe/dagkas.pdf

So newspapers have been talking about how titanic shifts in Greek society have impacted the youth and other economically disadvantage classes, brought anger to the surface, and made policing the society more difficult?? Cool, I might need to take back all the nasty things that I have said about journalism lately.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2008 11:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
Yes. Obviously, however, it all depends what you read.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 12:10 am
@Walter Hinteler,
From today's Guardian:
Quote:
Backstory
Riots are not uncommon in Greece. Self-proclaimed groups of anarchists attack banks, high-end shops and foreign car dealerships. The November 17 parade is a particular flashpoint, when thousands mark the 1974 student uprising at the Polytechnic, an event that led to the collapse of seven years of hated military rule. Few of these attacks, however, cause injuries. Some believe Greece's anarchist movement has its roots in the resistance to the dictatorship and the left/right divide that the period spawned. A number of anti-globalisation, anti-authoritarian, leftwing groups are also believed to have emerged at that time.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 12:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
http://i37.tinypic.com/205d3pz.jpg
Source: Guardian, 08.12.08, page 5
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 04:36 am
Today, 15 demonstrators have occupied the Greek consulate in Berlin.

Online text of the occupants (in German)
http://de.indymedia.org/2008/12/235153.shtml
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 04:42 am
Latest reports via Blomberg (Athens/Greece/Berlin)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 04:05 pm
Athen's city center seems to be totally in flames tonight ...
Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 08:21 pm
And I remember the philosophers wearing togas, explaining nuances of logic to a throng of listeners. Times have really changed.
cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 08:22 pm
@cjhsa,
I got voted down by the chimps. What a surprise.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 08:28 pm
@Foofie,
You must be older than Methuselah then....
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 08:33 pm
@CalamityJane,
Yeah, so many people on a2k mis-represent their age, it's downright shameful! LOL
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 08:42 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:

You must be older than Methuselah then....


When one is a student of history, one has lived for ages.
cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2008 08:49 pm
@Foofie,
You're too kind to the ....
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