Sharia to be intruduced into English law?

But that is what sharia law means to most people. And most people will have none of it.

It's the thought that counts. These ****-birds KNOW perfectly well how the rest of mankind views their fucked law; the fact that they'd even try to have sharia or any part of it implemented in a host country which took them in as immigrants and refugees is the problem. I-slam is what happens when a bunch of self-pitying losers decide to make being pushy into an art form.

legal ....principles could be employed to deal with family and marital arguments....

How does that mean anything other than that the sorry fuckers will be allowed to whip or stone their daughters and nieces for dating Christian boys? Inquiring minds want to know.

Do you really think that a judge agree to a settlement which says that after the divorce the daughters and nieces will be stoned?

Steve 41oo wrote:

But that is what sharia law means to most people. And most people will have none of it.

In that case, people should educate themselves - and actually read more than the headlines!

The Lord Chief Justice Lord Philipps repeated in July what the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams had said five months earlier - and exactly that was again repeated in the National Liberal Club by Stephen Hockman QC: namely that Sharia law should be used for disputes among Muslims; legal principles could be employed to deal with family and marital arguments and to regulate finance.

And if someone had followed the discussions among judges, lawers, solicisters, barristers - those would have noted that such is already done since years: anyone entering into a contractual agreement can agree that the agreement shall be governed by a law other than English law.

And it is more complex than first appears. But Rowan Williams was stupid in not realising how his remarks would be taken by ordinary people, particularly Christians. I think its an impossible task to incorporate any element of Sharia law into UK law because they are funadmentally incompatible. How are you going to guarantee the rights of women and minority groups such as homosexuals under Sharia?

If a man demands his right to a sharia court can the woman demand a trial under English law?

... there is widespread misunderstanding in this country as to the nature of Sharia law. Sharia consists of a set of principles governing the way that one should live one’s life in accordance with the will of God. These principles are based on the Qu’ran, as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad and interpreted by Islamic scholars. The principles have much in common with those of other religions. They do not include forced marriage or the repression of women. Compliance with them requires a high level of personal conduct, including abstinence from alcohol. I understand that it is not the case that for a Muslim to lead his or her life in accordance with these principles will be in conflict with the requirements of the law in this country.

What would be in conflict with the law would be to impose certain sanctions for failure to comply with Sharia principles. Part of the misconception about Sharia law is the belief that Sharia is only about mandating sanctions such as flogging, stoning, the cutting off of hands, or death for those who fail to comply with the law. And the view of many of Sharia law is coloured by violent extremists who invoke it, perversely, to justify terrorist atrocities such as suicide bombing, which I understand to be in conflict with Islamic principles. There can be no question of such sanctions being applied to or by any Muslim who lives within this jurisdiction. Nor, when I was in Oman, did I find that such penalties formed any part of the law applied there. It is true that they have the death penalty for that intentional murder, but they do not apply any of the other forms of corporal punishment I have just listed.

It remains the fact that in Muslim countries where the law is founded on Sharia principles, the law includes sanctions for failure to observe those principles and there are courts to try those who are alleged to have breached those laws. The definition of the law and the sanctions to be applied for breach of it differ from one Muslim country to another. In some countries the courts interpret Sharia Law as calling for severe physical punishment. There can be no question of such courts sitting in this country, or such sanctions being applied here. So far as the law is concerned, those who live in this country are governed by English law and subject to the jurisdiction of the English courts....

Well - how are the rights of minorities, women, homosexuals guaranteed in 'normal' family pre-court cases, under English law?

The Lord Chief Justice Lord Philips said on July 3:

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... there is widespread misunderstanding in this country as to the nature of Sharia law. Sharia consists of a set of principles governing the way that one should live one’s life in accordance with the will of God. These principles are based on the Qu’ran, as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad and interpreted by Islamic scholars. The principles have much in common with those of other religions. They do not include forced marriage or the repression of women. Compliance with them requires a high level of personal conduct, including abstinence from alcohol. I understand that it is not the case that for a Muslim to lead his or her life in accordance with these principles will be in conflict with the requirements of the law in this country.

What would be in conflict with the law would be to impose certain sanctions for failure to comply with Sharia principles. Part of the misconception about Sharia law is the belief that Sharia is only about mandating sanctions such as flogging, stoning, the cutting off of hands, or death for those who fail to comply with the law. And the view of many of Sharia law is coloured by violent extremists who invoke it, perversely, to justify terrorist atrocities such as suicide bombing, which I understand to be in conflict with Islamic principles. There can be no question of such sanctions being applied to or by any Muslim who lives within this jurisdiction. Nor, when I was in Oman, did I find that such penalties formed any part of the law applied there. It is true that they have the death penalty for that intentional murder, but they do not apply any of the other forms of corporal punishment I have just listed.

It remains the fact that in Muslim countries where the law is founded on Sharia principles, the law includes sanctions for failure to observe those principles and there are courts to try those who are alleged to have breached those laws. The definition of the law and the sanctions to be applied for breach of it differ from one Muslim country to another. In some countries the courts interpret Sharia Law as calling for severe physical punishment. There can be no question of such courts sitting in this country, or such sanctions being applied here. So far as the law is concerned, those who live in this country are governed by English law and subject to the jurisdiction of the English courts....