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Guns - What You Should Buy Now

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 04:33 pm
@cjhsa,
Quote:

Enlighten us oh well spoken one.

I don t think he can.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 05:25 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Yes, the .44 is nice, but I prefer the .45 ACP that my Glock 21 pistols fire... is there such a thing as a .45 ACP lever action available?
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 06:27 pm
Had to go find my hip waders to get through the deep testosterone in here. Actually, my sense is that if our new fearless leader goes after guns at all, he'll be going after the hand guns first. And for reasons too complicated to be necessary here, I'm in the market.

What do you recommend for a lady that is affordable, user friendly, and effective as a self defense weapon? (I will also be seeking a concealed carry license so it needs to be portable too.)
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 06:40 pm
@Foxfyre,
A pearl handled dart gun with poisoned tips should scare most people I should think. It would me.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 06:54 pm
@cjhsa,
knives are my style.

kabar on deck son!
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alex240101
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 06:55 pm
@Foxfyre,
If you have to carry a gun,..... the key word you mentioned is "effective". It is my opinion that you should get a forty five caliber, no smaller. You will learn how to handle and fire the gun when obtaining your C.C.W permit.

OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 06:56 pm
@alex240101,
all about that street howitzer

boom chik chik boom.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 07:22 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:



What do you recommend for a lady that is affordable, user friendly, and effective as a self defense weapon? (I will also be seeking a concealed carry license so it needs to be portable too.)


Look at the Glock 19 or the Glock 36
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 07:25 pm
Thanks to a general fear of what the Dems might do with full control of the Congress most
dealers have sold out of AR lowers and those that have them in stock are raising prices.

Obamanomics are at play here.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 07:39 pm
Ya know, We own several guns and three are pistols. I am, however, incredulous as to how some of you have lives that wrap around your guns. Do you guys do anything else besides whack off to the gun catalogs? How about , ohhh, I dont know, ever read a book? or play an instrument? How bout gardening or taking yer kids to a ball game? Know how to cook? or paint or do woodblock prints? Travel seems nice, do any of that? any boaters or car enthusiasts among the gun clan?

Life is an unlimited horizon that is delimitated only by your lack of wider fields of vision. You guys are kinda boring .

NickFun
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 07:46 pm
@farmerman,
I agree. I own a couple of guns only because my father was a collector. I keep them safely locked away and have only used them once at target practice. I have more important things to do.
gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 08:13 pm
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/reviews/2404/_11882655127917.jpg

I recently purchased the above model because I enjoy sitting on my porch at night and shooting anyone who has the temerity to walk by my house dressed in such a fashion....

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1402/1332844907_21eafd047a_o.jpg
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 08:18 pm
@farmerman,
While you whack off to the latest Martha Stewart magazine the rest of us are doing
all that life has to offer and more. I even take time to teach kids how to shoot Mr. Green
gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 08:21 pm
H2OMAN, if we ever are attacked and find the need to use guns to defend ourselves, I would suspect you would be one of the first to die. There's is more to staying alive than simply owning a gun.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 09:00 pm
@gustavratzenhofer,
Gu-fer, I am now certain that you would be running as fast as you could
in the other direction if the day came were we had to defend ourselves.

You would happily let those with guns fight and die protecting your life without giving it a second thought.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 09:28 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
While you whack off to the latest Martha Stewart magazine the rest of us are doing
all that life has to offer and more. I even take time to teach kids how to shoot



So, do you wish a GREAT ROLE MODEL medal ?
, Does it hurt you to "take time" to teach kids something?
Your choice of words says a lot about you.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 10:03 pm
@NickFun,
Quote:

I own a couple of guns only because my father was a collector.
I keep them safely locked away and have only used them once at target practice

What guns did he collect ?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 10:25 pm
The one thing EVERYBODY should own and the first thing you need to buy if you don't own any weapons beyond boy-scout knives, would be some sort of a mechanically decent and accurate 22-caliber rifle; that's the thing you'd use to put most kinds of food on the table if the whole thing breaks down and the grocery stores and farms cease to function. Again I'd recommend the little lever-action Henry rifle.

http://www.internetguncatalog.com/igc/pics/Large/36596.jpg
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 10:58 pm
@Foxfyre,
Quote:
What do you recommend for a lady that is affordable, user friendly, and effective as a self defense weapon? (I will also be seeking a concealed carry license so it needs to be portable too.)


One place to get a look at pretty much every sort of thing you'd consider in one place would be gunbroker.com which is a sort of an ebay for firearms.

You have several choices, the most major being between revolvers and semiauto pistols. Many people, particularly cops, figure you're always better off with the revolvers, which they deem mechanically simpler and foolproof.
You'd want some sort of a small 38 caliber revolver if you go that way.

The most major advantage of the semiautos is the ability to reload quickly (by changing a magazine) in some sort of a sustained gunfight with pistols; in real life, the chances of YOU ever being involved in a sustained gunfight are probably exactly zero but there might be other advantages to semiautos which would be meaningful in your case

Revolvers arose in the age of black powder which was much less efficient than the smokeless powder used today and for that reason many of the cartridge calibers used for revolvers (which are loaded with smokeless powder today) are overkill for human adversaries and better suited for protection against bears and other dangerous members of the natural order. In particular were you ever to fire one of the magnum revolvers indoors, you might never really hear again.

The semiautos arose AFTER the invention of smokeless powder and absolutely require it since cartridge cases beyond a certain length would prevent them from functioning.

The main choice amongst semiautos is between heavier calibers which require the barrel locking system which John Browning invented, and which limits accuracy, and smaller calibers which can use simple blowback mechanisms.

For a small, light semiauto pistol which would still stop 99.9% of all evildoers from whatever evil they had in mind I'd recommend some sort of little 380-caliber semiauto, and I'd make sure to experiment with different kinds of ammo for it until I had one heavy enough to guarantee that it never jammed, i.e. with which you could fire off a hundred shots without it ever jamming.

Something like this would do:

http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/115806000/115806012/pix1417720156.jpg

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=115806012

380 Would be the largest semiauto caliber for which you could get by with just the blowback mechanism, which would make it my choice for what you're talking about.













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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 11:09 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:

Ya know, We own several guns and three are pistols.
I am, however, incredulous as to how some of you have lives
that wrap around your guns. Do you guys do anything else besides
whack off to the gun catalogs? How about , ohhh, I dont know,
ever read a book? or play an instrument? How bout gardening or
taking yer kids to a ball game? Know how to cook? or paint or do
woodblock prints? Travel seems nice, do any of that? any boaters
or car enthusiasts among the gun clan?

Life is an unlimited horizon that is delimitated only by your lack
of wider fields of vision. You guys are kinda boring .

Did u direct this to ME, Farmer ?





David
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