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The 83rd Save Rain Forest Thread

 
 
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 11:28 am
@sumac,
hey sumac. the bottles at the performers feet were for the next piece - a concerto on 16 bottles - it was amazing - I'll drop the youtube for it off after I've posted today's results
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 11:29 am
@Stradee,
No flutes. 150 recorders! They used about 60 of them during the concert.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 11:31 am
@danon5,
The WildClickers have supported 2,929,223.1 square feet!

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Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 221,266.8 square feet.
You have supported: (0.0)
Your 300 friends have supported: (221,266.8)

American Prairie habitat supported: 68,854.1 square feet.
You have supported: (17,979.8)
Your 300 friends have supported: (50,874.3)

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,639,102.2 square feet.
You have supported: (189,188.6)
Your 300 friends have supported: (2,449,913.6)

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It was about -15 celsius here yesterday, but brilliantly sunny so I used the "rainforest clothesline". The pillowcases and sheets were wonderfully smooth and chilled when I put them on the bed in the evening.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 11:45 am
@sumac,



Flanders Recorder Quartet
On the bottle (2005) for 16 wine and beer bottles
Composer: Frans Geysen (B)
Recorded live in Seoul 2008
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 12:00 pm
@ehBeth,
That had to be an amazing evening of sound innovation.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 12:05 pm
@Stradee,
I've been very lucky lately with the music I've had an opportunity to hear.

The Tafelmusik program celebrating the International Year of Astronomy was also extraordinary. I'm looking forward to the video they'll be putting out of it. The skyscapes were wow wow wow
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 06:32 pm
@danon5,
danon - I'm hoping you've got something to add to this thread by one of your fellow Texans http://able2know.org/topic/129856-1

He's another one of the really good guys.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 08:43 am
@ehBeth,
Sounds marvelous, Beth!

The music's awsome!

Thanks


http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=583091674


ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 09:29 pm
@Stradee,
The Wildclickers have supported 2,929,371.2 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 221,318.7 square feet.
You have supported: (0.0)
Your 300 friends have supported: (221,318.7)

American Prairie habitat supported: 68,854.1 square feet.
You have supported: (17,979.8)
Your 300 friends have supported: (50,874.3)

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,639,198.5 square feet.
You have supported: (189,196.0)
Your 300 friends have supported: (2,450,002.5)

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Nice to see Danon posting some of his wonderful stories where others can appreciate them as well. Setanta commented on reading and enjoying them when I got home from class tonight.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 09:30 pm
@Stradee,
G'day Stradee!

thanks for keeping the link handy
sumac
 
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Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2009 08:53 am
March 3, 2009
Grass-Roots Uprising Against River Dam Challenges Tokyo
By MARTIN FACKLER

HITOYOSHI, Japan " First, the farmers objected to an ambitious dam project proposed by the government, saying they did not need irrigation water from the reservoir. Then the commercial fishermen complained that fish would disappear if the Kawabe River’s twisting torrents were blocked. Environmentalists worried about losing the river’s scenic gorges. Soon, half of this city’s 34,000 residents had signed a petition opposing the $3.6 billion project.

In September, this rare grassroots uprising scored an even rarer victory when the governor of Kumamoto prefecture, a mountainous area of southern Japan, formally asked Tokyo to suspend construction. The Construction Ministry agreed, temporarily halting an undertaking that had already relocated a half-dozen small villages, though work on the dam itself had not started.

The suspension grabbed national headlines as one of the first times a local governor had succeeded in blocking a megaproject being built by the central government. It also turned the governor, Ikuo Kabashima, in

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/world/asia/03dam.html?_r=1&th=&emc=th&pagewanted=print
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2009 08:54 am
Nominations on Hold For 2 Top Science Posts
Votes on Physicist and Marine Biologist Halted by N.J. Senator in Unrelated Fight

By Juliet Eilperin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 3, 2009; A03

The nominations of two of President Obama's top science advisers have stalled in the Senate, according to several sources, posing a challenge to the administration as it seeks to frame new policies on climate change and other environmental issues.

Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) has placed a "hold" that blocks votes on confirming Harvard University physicist John Holdren, who is in line to lead the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Oregon State University marine biologist Jane Lubchenco, Obama's nominee to head the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. According to sources who asked not to be identified because they were not authorized to discuss the matter, Menendez is using the holds as leverage to get Senate leaders' attention for a matter related to Cuba rather than questioning the nominees' credentials.

Jim Manley, spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), said of Menendez's objections, "We will work to try to address any concerns that he may have."

The delay -- which could end quickly if Menendez dropped his objection or Senate leaders pushed for a floor vote that would require 60 votes to pass -- has alarmed environmentalists and scientific experts who strongly back Holdren and Lubchenco.
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2009 08:54 am
ECOLOGY: Underground Engineering
Sherman J. Suter

Prairie dogs are keystone species (meaning that many taxa are affected by their presence) and also ecosystem engineers (that is, they sculpt the physical aspects of their environment). Prairie dog colonies crop nonwoody vegetation, disturb soil surfaces, and dig extensive networks of burrows. To determine how these activities affect the local biota, VanNimwegen et al. censused rodents and measured vegetation structure either directly on black-tailed prairie dog (Cynomys ludovicianus) colonies at the Cimarron National Grassland or at sites roughly 1 km distant. The authors plotted separate ordinations of rodent counts and vegetation variables using nonmetric multidimensional scaling. They examined the effects of three categorical variables: colony (on or off), cover (shortgrass or sandsage), and habitat (factorial combination of colony and cover). Rodent communities differed in response to prairie dog colonies regardless of the cover, and the effect of colonies was not diminished by the uniform vegetation structure in the shortgrass prairie. These patterns indicate that the prairie dogs' cropping of vegetation has at most a minor effect on the rodent community structure; their impact is achieved through soil disturbance and burrowing. -- SJS

Ecology 89, 3298 (2008).
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2009 08:56 am
One of the lead stories in 3/1's paper.

March 1, 2009
Obama’s Backing Raises Hopes for Climate Pact
By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL

Until recently, the idea that the world’s most powerful nations might come together to tackle global warming seemed an environmentalist’s pipe dream.

The Kyoto Protocol, signed in 1997, was widely viewed as badly flawed. Many countries that signed the accord lagged far behind their targets in curbing carbon dioxide emissions. The United States refused even to ratify it. And the treaty gave a pass to major emitters in the developing world like China and India.

But within weeks of taking office, President Obama has radically shifted the global equation, placing the United States at the forefront of the international climate effort and raising hopes that an effective international accord might be possible. Mr. Obama’s chief climate negotiator, Todd Stern, said last week that the United States would be involved in the negotiation of a new treaty " to be signed in Copenhagen in December " “in a robust way.”

That treaty, officials and climate experts involved in the negotiations say, will significantly differ from the agreement of a decade ago, reaching beyond reducing greenhouse gas emissions and including financial mechanisms and making good on longstanding promises to provide money and technical assistance to help developing countries cope with climate change.

The perception that the United States is now serious has set off a flurry of diplomacy around the globe. “The lesson of Kyoto is that if the U.S. isn’t taking it seriously there is no reason for anyone else to,” said Bill McKibben, who runs the environmental organization www.350.org.

This week the United Nation’s top climate official, Yvo de Boer, will make the rounds in Washington to discuss climate issues. The United Nations secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, is organizing a high-level meeting on climate and energy. Teams from Britain and Denmark have visited the White House to discuss climate issues. In China, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton made climate a central focus of her visit and proposed a partnership between the United States and China. And a special envoy from China is coming soon.

But a global treaty still faces serious challenges in Washington and abroad, and the negotiations will be a test of how far the United States and other nations are prepared to go to address climate change at a moment when economies around the world are unspooling. The global recession itself is expected to result in a reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, as manufacturing and other polluting industries shrink, lessening the pressure on countries to take action.

“The No. 1 thing will be for everyone to see that the U.S. is on an urgent and transformational path to a low carbon economy " that would have a galvanizing effect,” said John Ashton, the British foreign secretary’s special representative for climate change.

The Obama administration has said that it will push through federal legislation this year to curb carbon dioxide emissions in the United States " a promise that Mr. Obama reiterated Tuesday in his speech to Congress.

The Kyoto Protocol has been a touchstone of the environmental movement. Thirty-seven developed countries, including Japan, Australia and nations in the European Union, ratified the accord, agreeing to reduce or limit the growth of carbon dioxide emissions by specified amounts. President George W. Bush, pressed by the Senate, rejected the accord, because countries like China were not also subject to mandatory emission levels. China and India also refused to ratify the protocol.

At the tail end of his administration, Mr. Bush made tentative overtures toward China and other countries on climate matters. In 2007, he convened a meeting of countries that were major emitters of greenhouse gases. Later, in bilateral economic talks, China and the United States agreed that they would cooperate on clean technology development and some other climate issues.

But Kyoto was shaped largely by climate scientists and environment ministers, not the higher-level officials now laying the groundwork. And even many who participated in the earlier accord now say they see it as weak and naïve about political and economic realities. Of the countries that signed, more than half are not on track to meet their targets according to 2008 United Nations data, including Germany, Ireland and Canada.

“In Kyoto we made a lot of promises to each other, but we hadn’t done the domestic politics,” Mr. Ashton said, “and that is why Kyoto " though a valuable step forward " has ultimately been so fragile.”

The talks on the new treaty, said Rajendra K. Pachauri, chairman of the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, “provides an opportunity to fill this gap that we’ve seen, and this time perform up to expectations.”

The 1997 protocol was a narrow accord about the emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gasses linked to global warming. The new agreement will need to address how those reductions can be achieved in a way that takes account of their effects on energy supplies and economies " especially at a time of global recession.

Negotiating the treaty when countries are under extreme economic stress presents challenges, Mr. de Boer acknowledged. Politicians in Italy and Canada have complained that it will be difficult to clean up industries to meet their Kyoto goals because of the economic downturn. But others say a global industrial recession, in which emissions tend to drop anyway and countries are poised to spend billions to stimulate economies, is the time to craft a global effort to combat global warming.

With developing countries like China and India emerging as major carbon dioxide emitters in the past few years, experts said that if the new treaty was to be effective, every nation would have to accept emissions limits. “If one part of the world acts and the other does not, that doesn’t really generate a climate benefit,” said Mr. de Boer, who is responsible for organizing the December meetings.

Developed countries would most likely get binding numerical targets, as some did in Kyoto. Developing countries, which were exempt under Kyoto, would probably be given less stringent goals, though it is not clear if these will be longer-term numerical targets or some other mechanism that ties allowable emissions to economic growth.

Mr. Obama has said the United States will lead the effort, but over the next months, he will have to show what exactly that means. A good first step, environmentalists say, would be to commit to trying to limit warming to two degrees centigrade above pre-industrial temperatures, an ambitious goal that the European Union has adopted but that the Bush administration steadfastly avoided. It could also pledge to reduce emissions by 50 or 80 percent by 2050.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has said that humans could largely adapt to two degrees of warming, but that a greater temperature increase could cause far more serious consequences, from a dangerous rise in sea levels to mass extinctions.

Climate experts added that the United States did not need to have in place national legislation to limit greenhouse gasses, a process that could take months, to negotiate in Copenhagen. “It’s not just about analyzing a piece of legislation,” Mr. Ashton said. “It’s about the feeling you get if you’re a leader sitting in Beijing. It’s like love; you know it when you feel it.”

A more complex issue is whether negotiators will retain the system of trading carbon credits that is central to the Kyoto Protocol, a kind of global commodities market for carbon.

That system allows developed countries that produce more than their allotted share of emissions to balance their emissions budget by investing in projects that curtail emissions elsewhere. Such projects might include the cleaning up of a coal power plant in China, planting trees in Africa or converting pig manure to electricity in the Netherlands. The same cap and trade concept is now used in Europe’s emissions.

But as the European Union and the countries that signed the Kyoto Protocol have tried such projects over the past few years, problems have emerged. Most notably, it is hard to determine the emissions-reducing value of carbon credit projects, making it easy to game the system. The new treaty, experts say, will also have to broaden Kyoto’s focus beyond industrial emissions to activities like airline travel, one of the fastest-growing sources of carbon emissions. In the end, it will also have to include financial mechanisms and technical assistance to help developing countries cope with climate change.

“This is not just about emissions but about creating a massive investment in a new global energy economy” that includes forests, oceans and the transfer of technology, said Angela Anderson, director of the Pew Environment Group’s Global Warming Campaign.

American negotiators were limited in Kyoto by a Senate resolution saying that the United States would not accept numerical caps unless China did as well. But Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, said, “There has been a sea change in the Senate,” and he added that he believed that there were enough votes " Democratic and Republican " to ratify a strong treaty.

What is unclear is whether politicians will be willing to commit to large enough changes to have a significant effect on global warming. “The Bush administration set the bar very low,” Mr. McKibben said.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2009 10:33 am
@ehBeth,
Good earthturn Beth.

sue, those are interesting articles. I do have much faith in the Obama admistrations policies for progressive change.

All wildclickers, have a marvelous day!


http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=583091674


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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2009 03:41 pm
HURRAY!!!!!

March 3, 2009, 3:32 pm
Obama Suspends Bush Rule on Endangered Species
By Kate Galbraith

President Obama today asked federal agencies to consult with wildlife biologists over decisions that may affect threatened or endangered species.

The memorandum effectively suspends a December 2008 rule issued by the Bush administration, which waived requirements that agencies like the Army Corps of Engineers consult with experts at the Fish and Wildlife Service or the National Marine Fisheries Service when undertaking projects like building dams.

Today’s decision did not throw out the Bush administration rule, which had prompted lawsuits from California and a number of environmental groups. Instead, Mr. Obama asked that the secretaries of commerce and the interior “review” the Bush regulation and determine whether new rules are needed.

“Until such a review is completed,” Mr. Obama wrote, “I request the heads of all agencies to exercise their discretion, under the new regulation, to follow the prior longstanding consultation and concurrence practices” involving the Fish and Wildlife Services and the National Marine Fisheries Service.

The Sierra Club reacted with unmitigated joy.

“These midnight regulations represented all the disdain for science and political trumping of expertise that characterized the Bush administration’s efforts to dismantle fundamental environmental laws,” said Carl Pope, the Club’s executive director, in a statement.

“Our wildlife are clearly in much better hands now,” he continued. “President Obama is bringing science back into decision-making.”
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2009 05:22 pm
@sumac,
That is good news! thanks for bringing it here, sumac.

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You and your 300 friends have supported 2,929,415.7 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 221,355.7 square feet.

American Prairie habitat supported: 68,854.1 square feet.

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,639,205.9 square feet.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2009 06:20 pm
@sumac,
Quote:
President Obama is bringing science back into decision-making.”


Yeah--we know--the science of how to stop tropical South Americans from growing food cheaper than they can on the praries with some tree-hugging sentimentalities.
danon5
 
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Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2009 09:27 pm
@spendius,
Hi all.

sumac, good news..... Thanks.
sumac
 
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Reply Wed 4 Mar, 2009 08:35 am
A snake larger than a school bus.

Paleontologists Strike Fossil Gold in Colombia
Coal Mining Removes Rock Layers to Reveal Mammoth Snakes, Other Finds

By Juan Forero
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, March 4, 2009; A11

BOGOTA, Colombia -- Carlos Jaramillo is 39 years old but loves to dig in the dirt -- especially the dry, flaky shale formations of Colombia's Guajira province. "If you talk to a paleontologist," he explained, "you're talking to a kid who never grew up."

For the past five years, Jaramillo and his team of paleontologists have been burrowing ground so rich in fossils that they have made the kinds of discoveries that thrill the scientific world. And they still have years of digging ahead of them at this site in the Cerrejon region of northeastern Colombia, a remote and oven-hot place not unaccustomed to drug traffickers and the occasional rebel column.

Last month, an international group of scientists revealed in the journal Nature that Jaramillo's team had made a startling discovery -- a species of snake larger than a school bus that ruled northern South America 60 million years ago. Evolving after the extinction of the dinosaurs, Titanoboa cerrejonensis -- or titanic boa from Cerrejon -- might have been the largest vertebrate living on land at that time, the Paleocene era.

Indeed, it had an average length of 43 feet -- far longer than any of today's pythons or anacondas -- and it weighed 2,500 pounds, more than a small car. Its diet included giant turtles and crocodiles -- Jaramillo's team also discovered the fossilized remains of those creatures under layers and layers of dirt and shale.

In all, Jaramillo and his team have found the remains of 28 snakes that measured between 42 and 49 feet. "What we have is a population of big snakes," said Jaramillo, who is Colombian. "It's not one snake. It's a bunch of them."

Funded by the Smithsonian Institution, Jaramillo's team -- the other members are students working on their master's or doctorate degrees -- has been digging in the most unusual of sites, the enormous, open-pit Cerrejon coal mine. Worked by some of the world's biggest mining multinationals, Cerrejon's 270 square miles are filled with moonlike craters 300 feet deep.

Excavators and earthmovers work without pause, carting off 32 million metric tons of coal a year. They also remove rock and dirt that the paleontologists would never be able to budge -- making it much easier for Jaramillo's team to reach the valuable fossils that he said are opening a window on the first tropical forests that evolved after the dinosaurs disappeared.

"They close a pit, and then they open up a new pit, so we always have possibilities," Jaramillo said. "I think we'll have 10, 15 years to do excavations. We always find new things."

Arriving for a dig a few months ago, Jaramillo scanned the horizon. For a first-time visitor accompanying him, it appeared to be anything but ground zero for fossils. Huge trucks roared past carrying mounds of coal to be exported to Europe and the United States, and heavy machinery could be heard in the distance, kicking up clouds of dust.

Wearing white work helmets, Jaramillo and two members of his team descended into one of the pits. They carried the tools of their trade -- a light chisel to brush off dirt and a hand lens to examine their discoveries. Perhaps even more important is simply having a sharp eye and a soft touch. "You need to train your eyes and you need to have special skills to do that," Jaramillo explained. "If you don't have the skills, you will come here for a year and never find anything."

The team's work has already turned up giant crocodiles and freshwater turtles that weighed 300 pounds. There are also hundreds of fossils of leaves so perfectly preserved that the paleontologists can easily make out the veins and ridges.

"Oh my God, you can tell the venation very well!" Jaramillo exclaimed, examining a leaf belonging to the Araceae plant family. "This is 60 million years old. So it's probably one of the oldest Araceaes ever found."

He then showed off the remains of a recently discovered anaconda, and then the fossils of fish and crabs, too. "This was like a big delta; it was a tropical rain forest," he said. That may be hard to fathom today because it rarely rains in Guajira province, which is now mostly home to scrub grass and small trees.

Jaramillo and other scientists think the forest that once thrived in Cerrejon evolved after a giant meteorite hit Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. The fossils they are recovering are helping to explain how the forest responded to that environmental catastrophe -- and may provide clues on how the modern world will react to, say, global warming.

The team's discoveries are piling up -- 4,000 fossils of plants, fruit, flowers and seeds; 75 turtles, 25 crocodiles, as well as fish, crabs and other creatures. The fossils belong to Colombia but are on loan to the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute in Panama and at the University of Florida at Gainesville.

Still, Jaramillo searches for more. He said each find is like the chapter of a book. Pieced together, they tell a long and complex story, one that he said is not yet complete.

"The feeling is amazing, because we don't know if here we're going to have a fantastic flower nobody has seen for the last 60 million years, or perhaps there is nothing," he said, as he took a chisel to a mound he had recovered from the shale. "So you just crack the rock open and hope for the best."
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