@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:
Brandon - I think I understand your argument better than you do, or at least what it means big picture.
You believe A because of B1 + B2 + ... + Bn.
A: Government doesn't have to allow gays to marry.
B1: Homosexuality is a biological malfunction.
B2: Heterosexual couples can give birth to and raise children.
B3: If homosexuals receive marriage licenses, then it is a public endorsement/validation of homosexuality.
B4: Gays can already get married to people of the opposite sex so they aren't being discriminated against.
The problem here Brandon is that you have yet to support any of your B premises with some sort of substance. You argument evaporates to...
You believe A.
A is supposed to be more than your opinion, it's supposed to be the intellectual product of the sum of your B premises. A by itself is irrelevant and is not a legal argument. Stop being so damn lazy, and I provide support for your reasons. Otherwise, if you just came here to tell us your opinion, do so without pretending like it is based on some larger noble and structured argument. I don't care if you don't want gays to marry. You're entitled to that opinion. It's laughable though that you think your opinion carries the same merit as the real academic arguments of A because B that are contrary to your belief.
In short, if this was a debate you aren't winning. You aren't even in the debate. You're not a player in the game yet. Your refusal to provide substance is the intellectual cowardice that prevents you from being wrong by never really stepping in the ring to begin with. Opinions can't be proven wrong so you don't dare go any further than that. It would be too risky for you to have to make an argument you have to invest in.
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Your representation of my position is now almost correct. The only remaining inaccuracy is that B2 is not any part of my argument. However, now we're in a valid debate.
I've given the argument for B1 repeatedly. Evolution seems to have created gender as a system of reproduction, and sexual attraction is part of that biological system. Therefore, attraction to one's own gender is contrary to the purpose and function of gender. I don't know how something like this could be proven beyond this statement, but I think that most of the people who have ever lived have taken this for granted as being true, except for the existence of evolution, which I won't discuss further unless you want to assert that evolution doesn't exist. One could probably repeat the argument with a religious basis instead.
As for B3, I consider issuance of same sex marriage licenses as an endorsement of their validity, and, since I'm only describing my subjective opinion, supporting evidence isn't necessary, but I think it's a reasonable position. I supose one could construct some sort of argument, but it sure looks like endorsement.
Yes, I am asserting B4. These laws treat everyone identically. There is no legal basis for asserting discrimination.