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'Net filters "required" for all Australians, no opt-out

 
 
Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 06:00 pm
'Net filters "required" for all Australians, no opt-out

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Australians may not be able to opt out of the government's Internet filtering initiative like they were originally led to believe. Details have begun to come out about Australia's Cyber-Safety Plan, which aims to block "illegal" content from being accessed within the country, as well as pornographic material inappropriate for children. Right now, the system is in the testing stages, but network engineers are now saying that there's no way to opt out entirely from content filtering.

Australia moved forward with its plans despite widespread public outcry and began testing the system in Tasmania in February of this year. At the time, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) said that the filters would be enabled by default and that consumers would have to request unfiltered connectivity if they wished to opt-out of the program.

Well, it turns out now that those promises were only partially true. Internode network engineer Mark Newton told Computerworld that users are able to opt out of the "additional material" blacklist"which targets content inappropriate for children"but not the main blacklist that filters what the Australian government determines is illegal content.
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 06:13 pm
A user would have no way to know WHAT was being filtered out....

Note also that guns were outlawed before information was.
margo
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 11:44 pm
@Robert Gentel,
We're being filtered out! Waaaah! or something?
roger
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 12:58 am
@margo,
I think you're just being filtered in.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 01:05 am
@Robert Gentel,
Its ok everyone I have already downloaded all the good porn.

Actually robert I'm pretty happy for most people to be saved from themselves.
When I compare the style of society we have with what I know of in America I definitly know which on I'm choosing.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 01:06 am
@gungasnake,
and that statement proves just how ignorant you are gunga.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 01:29 am
@dadpad,
WoW !
It really appears that Austrailia is NOT a free country.
It only has so much freedom as its government
feels like giving the citizens; as tho a gift, but one that can be stolen back. Very sad.

The English Empire was never freedom oriented.
Dutchy
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 01:55 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I wouldn't worry, Aussies won't stand being bossed around like that, just look what happened to our last Prime Minister in 2007. Led a debt free and very prosperous Country, introduces 1 bad law which hit the worker something shocking, and out he went after 12 years in power, even lost his own seat!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 02:07 am
@Dutchy,
I was not aware of that.
I visited Austrailia (Melbourne) in the 1980s; I liked it.
As I remember, I paid no tax in restaurants and tipping was not done.
I liked paying in round numbers.

Anyway, I wish your country all the best,
and I know that every country will get the government
that it deserves, for good or ill.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 28 Oct, 2008 03:45 pm
@Robert Gentel,
I've finally found an explanation for all this.

Or a possible one.

It was, apparently, widely believed that the Rudd government would quietly dispense with Howard's proposed legislation.

It hasn't.

Here is one explanation...

(The other ones include that Rudd is a christian and personally favours it....or that key Aboriginal people are lobbying for it because of the increased violence, rape and child sexual abuse many Aboriginal people believe is due to internet porn in remote communities...but anyway..)


The ruling Labor party does NOT hold the balance of power in the Upper House.

There is a key christian right independent who can have a major effect on whether Labor legislation gets through or not.

He likes the internet filter bill.


I just read that quickly and I need to follow up....

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Deckland
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 01:22 am
All our posts, emails etc are filtered now for certain keywords. Heard of ECHELON ?

http://fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm
Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 03:37 am
@Deckland,
No, but I have HERD OF COWS!!!!


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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 03:48 am
I may be a little out of touch here.....

Quote:
The Opposition said it would take "a lot of convincing" for it to support the controversial mandatory ISP filtering policy, so the Government would need the support of Senator Fielding as well as the Greens and Senator Nick Xenophon to pass the legislation.



If the Senate is a bit 'iffy', then it really doesn't have legs. God knows, with the upset a year ago - they need all the 'executive relief' they can download.
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 04:44 am
@Mr Stillwater,
Yeah....I heard on the radio the other day that this is a Rudd government initiative.

I'm all confused.

I need to find out what they are filtering...kiddy porn and such I presume.

I have no problem with that.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 06:59 am
The gun issue that everyone at A2K despises should be front and center in this discussion. In the US, the 2A protects the right to free speech - without it, the biggest, strongest, dumbest, and loudest would be the only ones that could stand on the soapbox.

Feeling a bit bullied, Oz?
cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 07:00 am
@dadpad,
dadpad wrote:

and that statement proves just how ignorant you are gunga.


Wow, the willfully ignorant trying to label the enlightened.... now, that's irony!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 11:54 am
@cjhsa,
Captain Wingnut wrote:
In the US, the 2A protects the right to free speech . . .


Speaking of the willfully ignorant . . . can't get your head around the difference between the first amendment and the second? I'm not surprised.
cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 12:14 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Captain Wingnut wrote:
In the US, the 2A protects the right to free speech . . .


Speaking of the willfully ignorant . . . can't get your head around the difference between the first amendment and the second? I'm not surprised.


How am I ignorant? You clearly don't understand my post, and chose to ignore the second portion of it.

But I expect nothing less from the lardass welfare chump of A2K.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 08:42 pm
@cjhsa,
He 's on WELFARE ?
Goodness, I had no idea !
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 20 Nov, 2008 08:48 pm
The Austrailians have really degraded and humiliated themselves,
with submitting to this governmental interference in their personal lives;
but, its their country; its their lives.

I have a hard time envisioning Crododile Dundee
putting up with that.





David
 

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