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I Am Sick of This Election

 
 
mason738
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 05:42 pm
@Foxfyre,
You obviously don't know that it is DANGEROUS in the extreme to say anything which could have you tagged as a R A C I S T. Are you so naive that you dont know that MILLIONS of people say nothing because they don't want to carry that designation? I am worried about OBAMA, they say, because I don't think his health plan will work. Then the LIBERALS And BLACKS point fingers and yell-racist-racist-racist.

Obama will win but he will be shocked to see how manyvotes will be logged againsgt him in his own state-ILLINOIS.

Your comment concerning "i HAVE NOT HEARD A SINGLE RACIST COMMENT IN OUR AREA" reminds me of Pauline Kael , movie critic, who said after the election of RICHARD NIXON,

Idon't knowwhy he won. NOONE I know voted for him!
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 05:45 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Shewolfnm has said what I believe. I think the government on both national and local level is so out of synch with what is reasonable and good for the nation and the world that it should be totally reorganized - a bloodless revolution. Get the ship of government on keel before it founders completely.

Yeah, but there's the problem. You and Foxfyre might both agree that a bloodless revolution might just be what the country needs to get the ship of government on keel -- but as soon as you start talking about what you think that entails, it turns out that you mean completely different things with it. What you'd consider on keel would be something of a nightmare scenario to her and vice versa. Which is OK, because you're just roughly on opposing ends of the political scale. But thats where the elections come back in.

Thats kinda my problem with these discussions about how the parties are all the same and you cant trust any of em and you need something, just, new. You get a bunch of people from different backgrounds and different parts of the country together who think so, and they'll all agree -- but soon as they'd start talking about what this new thing should actually be -- ok, a party thats honest and fair and doesnt play games and knows what regular people feel, etc -- but what kind of actual policies would it pursue? Broach it and the group will part ways between those who are very liberal, a little liberal, a little conservative, very conservative, some mixture of two...

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, you know, it may feel good to grumble about how its all the same, but when you get down to the nitty gritty there those familiar choices are again. So sometimes I get a little impatient with that myself...
mason738
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 05:45 pm
@edgarblythe,
And you don't think Obama is an extremist? As a well read man, have you read his autobiographies in which he tells us that his reading as a young man was all about EXTREMISTS--Malcom X; Frantz Fanon; Stokely Carmichael.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 05:55 pm
@nimh,
I agree with your assessment. Still, the reality is, it's broke. Somebody has to fix it.
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 05:59 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

I think a lot of Republicans are sick of this election.

Cycloptichorn


y'know? Such BS. For one thing, boring, it ain't. Thanks, cyke - wanted to say it myself, but glad you did...
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 06:54 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Well, there is the McCain campaign county chair from Virginia who was just booted out of his position for claiming that when Obama is elected he will hire Ludacris to paint the white house black.

No hint of racism in that.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 08:17 pm
@mason738,
mason738 wrote:

Only nIMH- A SOCIALIST who lives in HUNGARY and likes to tell AMERICANS how to run their country, talks abut"REVOLUTIONS.

Get with it, Nimh--The USA is not your beloved SOVIET RUSSIA.


LOLROTFPMP
(ROTF = rolling on the floor)
(PMP = pissing my pants)
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 08:28 pm
To nimh: Wink

Fel vörösök, proletárok!
Csillagosok, katonák!

http://retronom.hu/files/images/kepek/32/1919_proletardiktatura.thumbnail.jpg
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 08:28 pm
@mason738,
Quote:
As a well read man, have you read his autobiographies in which he tells us that his reading as a young man was all about EXTREMISTS--Malcom X; Frantz Fanon; Stokely Carmichael.


What could possibly make someone who is well read, in the sense of having a broad reading background, an extremist? That isn't a leap in logic, Mason, that is a complete absence of logic.
mason738
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 08:46 pm
@snood,
Boy. will you be glad when the brother gets in, then you can get your hands on some of that loot. Not with my money, you won't.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 08:54 pm
@mason738,
Mason, you continue to exhibit extremely poor writing skills, and yet you chide others for their simple mistakes. What's with that?


mason738
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 09:05 pm
@JTT,
But,. JTT, If you read Obama's autobiographies( i have) you would find out that he DID NOT MENTION HEMINGWAY, FAULKNER, OR EVEN SALINGER. He only spoke of black writers. I will quote from his book-he wrote---I GATHERED UP BOOKS FROM THE LIBRARY--BALDWIN, ELLISON, HUGHES, WRIGHT, DUBOIS." quote from p. 81- Dreams from my Father" As I am sure you know, these are all angry black power revolutionaries. I read both of Obama's books. HE DOES NOT REFER TO ANY AUTHORS WHO ARE NOT BLACK.

Now, I have doucumented my statement from Obama's own book. Please do not respond as some do and say that what I wrote is bunk. The quotes are correct. The left wing is terrified of the evidence in Obama's own autobiography which shows him to have grown up as basically a black power individual.

Furthermore, his mentors were not benign either. HIS MENTOR, quoted in Obama's own autobiography was a man named FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS.

Mr. Davis was a MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY USA.

In OBAMA'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY, Davis is quoted as telling OBAMA that--quote" She( obama's grandmother) understands that black people have a reason to hate... so youmight as well get used to it"

please.JTT, before you critique a post find out if the proper research has been done, then, if you can, point out the errors.

In
Obama's autobiographies, he clearly identifies himself as a left wing LIBERAL, sustained by radical black writers and a CARD CARRYING COMMUNIST MENTOR.



mason738
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 09:06 pm
@JTT,
I can take some instruction. Please let me know where I have failed. I think I may have read too many books by Jack KEROUAC. But don't get off the subject. Respond to my post. If you wont or cant, it stands.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 09:19 pm
@mason738,
I am shocked that a man who stands so firm for the American way has a problem with a person's choice of reading material. Do you really believe that Obama could have gotten thru the American school system without being forced to read your choice of authors.

What would be at all surprising about a young black man believing in black power? There were centuries of white power that caused much greater grief to those of a skin other than white.

It seems your concern relates not at all to a broad education. Your concern is that someone could actually have an inquiring mind. A democracy entails that all parties and all political thought be allowed expression.

But you, your fear is palpable and I must tell you, childish in the extreme.

JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 09:22 pm
@mason738,
Quote:
I can take some instruction. Please let me know where I have failed. I think I may have read too many books by Jack KEROUAC. But don't get off the subject. Respond to my post. If you wont or cant, it stands.


My point is not to instruct, Mason. I merely point up that you're being awfully hypocritical in using a grammar marm approach when, with what we read in your posts, your own knuckles would be swollen and red.
mason738
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 10:22 pm
@JTT,
JTT- SEVERAL ERRORS ON YOUR PART-- Completly understandable since you have not read OBAMA'S autobiographies.

l. Obama was not in the American school system from the first through the fourth grades. He was in an INDONESIAN school where his name was BARRY SOETORO--the name he took after his father deserted him and his mother and his mother remarried an INDONESIAN MAN.

2. I really don't know if OBAMA got through the school system without reading other authors. I only know that he never mentioned any other than black power blacks. If I wrote an autobiography and told that my favorite auth0r was the Marquise De Sade, I would not or should not be surprised if people form a particular opinion of me and my tastes.

3. There is nothing wrong with reading black power writers but if no other authors are mentioned, that, in my opinion, shows that you are enamored of the positions taken by those writers. Why else would he mention them?
The problem here is that OBAMA says he is a UNITER. He subscribes to the positions taken by black power advocates and yet tells us he is a uniter????

Your concept about an "INQUIRING MIND" is not to be found in OBAMA'S AUTOBIOGRAPHIES.( but you don't know that since you have not read him).
His focus is narrow and almost completely based on the problems of black people. He does not talk about Science, Anthropology, Geology, Algebra, etc. etc. All he talks about is the problems of black people. That is understandable but it does not show an inquiring mind.

You have one thing right. My fear IS palpable and it is based on the fact that Obama will change our nation to a SOCIALISM which spits in the face of our CONSTITUTION
mason738
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 10:24 pm
@JTT,
Please point out where I tried to instruct anyone in GRAMMAR.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 10:28 pm
@mason738,
The duties of a grammar marm extend far beyond grammar, Mason. You don't really need me to go back and find the post, do you? Your memory must surely be better than that.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 10:41 pm
@mason738,
That still leaves grades five to twelve, does it not? I doubt that one to four do a great deal of Hemingway.

One has to be very careful about drawing unwarranted and simplistic conclusions. I wouldn't form a particular opinion about you simply because you tell me that your favorite auth0r was the Marquise De Sade.

Being steeped in the writing of those authors may make him eminently qualified to be a uniter. It certainly isn't possible that he could be any worse than GWB, is it?

The constitution doesn't deem that the USA has any political system. The one chosen is that which the majority want. You know, democracy.
 

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