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Okay Farmerman...Please Explain This Big Bang Machine

 
 
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 03:15 pm
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:
(See my new sig line, which applies to both science and politics these days...)

Wasn't that satire?
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 03:16 pm
@sozobe,
I wonder how many young lads used it to persuade a pretty girl that it might be her last chance.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 03:17 pm
@DrewDad,
Yes... that's why I added the date.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 04:50 pm
@sozobe,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26641652/

Quote:

Indian girl commits suicide over 'Big Bang' fear
In India, fears about the experiment spread rapidly through the media


Yep seriously.

spendius
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2008 05:01 pm
@maporsche,
Sheesh!!!!!!!!
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 05:57 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

There has never been a big bang; the big bang idea is fiction, just like the theory of evolution. The universe is basically eternal, and the creation stories we read in antique literature are basically telling the story of the creation of our own local environment and not the entire universe.

http://www.cosmologystatement.org

Having all the mass of the universe collapsed to a point would be the ultimate black hole; nothing would ever "bang" its way out of that. In other words, the idea does not even withstand any sort of a basic logic test.

Stated without the tiniest discussion of the physics involved, based on a link to a testimonial, the refuge of the incompetent debater.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 06:06 am
@Bi-Polar Bear,
They bang particles into each other to study what comes out of the collision. Often one gets completely new particles. When you bang one particle into another, the mass of the initiating particles (or rather the energy equivalent using E = mc^2), plus their kinetic energies (energy of motion) will equal the mass of the exiting particles, plus their energies. Therefore, to get high mass particles (or any others) out of the collision, one needs to bang the initiating particles together with enough kinetic energy (speed) to create them. For this reason, physicists seek higher and higher speeds for the beams. The speed limit is the speed of light, but the closer on gets to it, the higher the kinetic energy. Particle accelerators such as this one are descendents of the first cyclotron created in the 1920s by E. O. Lawrence. The benefit of the new accelerator is simply that it gets its particles very close to the speed of light.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 06:35 am
@Brandon9000,
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For this reason, physicists seek higher and higher speeds for the beams.


The higher the speeds the higher the salaries which is really what physicists seek when you cut the beliefs out.

Actually, it's a nice metaphor for marriage. The higher the ego energies the shorter the half-lives of relationships. And the products of the collisions get more and more wierd.

The fear of God replaced by the fear of physicists who are all, unfortunately, human and thus subject to the usual exigencies. As are their lickspittals and lackeys. The new priesthood. With their own algebra. Services nightly on the Discovery Channels. Painless collections. Christian musical accompianment to wow the stalls.

It's a pity Charlie Drake or Tommy Cooper are not still with us. They could have explained the LHC to the public much better than has hithertofore has been the case.

One wonders when their private lives are going to be investigated like everybody else's in the public eye is.

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