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Sarah Palin wants creationism taught in science classes

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 01:12 pm
Does that also mean that Palin is against stem cell research, and will not allow science to go forward with the potential cures for diseases?

squinney
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 01:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Adult stem cells only. Don't remember now if I read that as related to Palin specifically or as part of the proposed 2008 republican platform.
hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 03:17 pm
@squinney,
reading today's paper (toronto star) : children overburdend/stressed in school ,
homework is being reduced (eliminated for junior grades) .

teaching "creationism" will replace ... (please fill in your choice) , or will it just be mentioned as other tidbits are ?
hbg
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 04:29 pm
@rosborne979,
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Are there enough "Creationist" votes out there to make a difference?


only 35% believe in evolution
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 05:58 pm
@maporsche,
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only 35% believe in evolution

Yeh, but that doesn't make the rest of them Creationists.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 06:00 pm
@rosborne979,
I don't believe that 35% of the people understand evolution....
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 06:05 pm
@Gelisgesti,
Simple...egg came first.

Birds evolved from reptiles, and reptiles (mostly) used eggs.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 06:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Does that also mean that Palin is against stem cell research, and will not allow science to go forward with the potential cures for diseases?

It means that she does not have enough scientific literacy to know the difference between fact and fiction. And if she wants Religion (Creationism) taught in science class it means that she is making her decisions based on what other Creationists tell her, because there is no rational value in teaching Creationism in Science class other than to indoctrinate kids into a particular religious view.

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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2008 09:23 pm
@Robert Gentel,
The way the question is often phrased is

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Should religion be taught on an equal basis, or put on an equal footing with evolution in our public schools?


The real answer is, Only if the religion you pick is the RIGHT one.

In other words, you'd have to have an apples-to-apples or oranges-to-oranges comparison, meaning that the religion in question would have to be of a similar intellectual level to that of evolution.

The only plausible candidates of course, would be Voodoo, Rastafari, and Santeria.
Xenoche
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 12:33 am
@gungasnake,
Since all beliefs are on equal footing, how about teaching every other religious belief as well, why just creationism (I know the answer is obvious)? Seems silly to state the apparent equality of conflicting beliefs and then not open the door to every other fable man has believed over the millennia's.

This blatant double standard doesn't make sense.
Science does make sense, and doesn't kid itself when there is something we are yet to understand. Hilariously the creationists 'god of the gaps' continues to disappear as the veil of ignorance is slowly pulled away revealing the awesomeness of our 'place', and at the same time, diminishing our universal significance within the cosmos, this is the threat to religious fables the world over, and the reason why the veil of understanding must be halted before there's nothing left for their deity to be revered for.

To a peasant religion is everything,
To a Leader, religion is a tool,
To me, religion is a scourge that will claim many more millions of lives before we accept its fruitless futility and our place in the cosmos as fact and not the mere whim of an ancient man made fairy tail of sun gods and nonsensical sacrifice.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 02:09 am
@Xenoche,
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To me, religion is a scourge that will claim many more millions of lives before we accept its fruitless futility and our place in the cosmos as fact and not the mere whim of an ancient man made fairy tail of sun gods and nonsensical sacrifice.


Over the last hundred years, wars and isms based on evolution have killed something like 200,000,000 people and the context is that in 1913, Europe had just gone for an entire century without a major war. To find anything you could compare with the two world wars you have to go straight back to Chengis Khan and even Chengis Khan hever dreamed of anything like the methodical killing of the communist states which didn't even involve wars.

The basic question is, what the **** are you talking about??
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 06:58 am
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 06:59 am
@gungasnake,
Evolution is not an "ism" and no wars have ever been fought over it.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 07:00 am
http://www.useless-site.com/images/posters/479px-Motivational-religion.jpg
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 07:05 am
@rosborne979,
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Evolution is not an "ism" and no wars have ever been fought over it.


You're claiming that WW-II didn't really happen?
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 07:55 am
@gungasnake,
WW-II had nothing to do with evolution. Evolution simply describes biological change over time, nobody has ever fought a war over that.

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Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 02:21 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Creationism is not science and has no business in a classroom. Teach it at home or church if you must.

Well, Lash, you as a White, Southern Evangelical Christian woman would seem to be exatly the kind of person McCain targeted when he picked Palin. Does his pick of a "teach-the-controversy" gal make you more likely or less likely to vote for him?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 02:24 pm
@Robert Gentel,
You have to be fair, Robert: I'm sure Palin has also given equal time to the flying spaghetti monster theory, the invisible pink unicorn theory, and the Phlogiston theory of fire.
Miller
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 02:25 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Robert Gentel wrote:

McCain's VP Wants Creationism Taught in School

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In a 2006 gubernatorial debate, the soon-to-be governor of Alaska said of evolution and creation education, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of education. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."


This canard that gives creationism parity with evolution is absurd. If people want creationism taught in science class it should be taught that it is an example of religious fundamentalism that fails on all counts as a scientific theory.


Good for Sarah for having some common sense.

Boo to the MOON BATS...
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 02:18 pm
@Miller,
Miller wrote:

Good for Sarah for having some common sense.

Boo to the MOON BATS...


you'd be okay with a scientist specializing in evolution giving classes in churches, then?
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