@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclo wrote:I'm tired of arguing this point back and forth with people who cannot see that the changes are not a completely positive thing, which is frankly a ridiculous view.
WAY to set up a straw man. I havent seen anyone, not a soul, argue that.
Even on the scale of rude put-downs (DrewDad levelled a few of those at you, but I cant remember anyone else) to patient, lengthy and reasonable explanations and arguments (of which there have been plenty, and which a bunch of us spent a lot of time writing), it's totally up to you to choose what to focus on.
(See, the new system would allow you, if you chose to use it, to just thumb down the posts you think are rude, and concentrate your answers to the many other posts where people are engaging your complaints and arguments reasonably and at length. Just sayin'.)
Actually, yeah, before I sign off let me end this on a bit of a rant. If you're smart, you'll make sure you read/respond to any or all of my previous responses where I tried addressing your various beefs one by one, before focusing all your attention on the more impolitic address that is to follow. But yeah, I have to get this off my chest:
Cyclo wrote:I have read several posts from frustrated users in the last few days. Most of you guys just don't seem to give a damn about their frustration, and that's sad, really. Instead of being critical of them, you might want to try listening and looking at things from the point of view of people who aren't as good at navigating around websites or learning new systems as you are.
Dude. In thread after thread after thread after thread (just click the "able2know" tag if you want to see them all), Craven, Nick and Jes, but also regular users like Soz, Thomas, and dare I say it, me, have explained the same things over and over and over again -- also to the people who didnt read any of the previous threads and started their own to complain, or who didnt read the previous pages of a thread and brought up the same subject again.
I have watched with admiration how Craven tackled each individual question he came across, even the ones that were no more articulate than "Waaah I hate this site why have they ruined it f*ck you!", which I myself would have just ignored. Even in this thread, you have had the choice between focusing on, say, DrewDad's insults or focusing on the countless posts that have by now been made explaining, once more, solutions to some of the problems you encountered, and arguments for why some of the solutions you suggest would be a cure worse than the illness (what's that expression?).
Meanwhile, the reverse holds for you. There are features that you really dont like, and you demand your arguments to be heard, acknowledged, listened to and acted upon. Rarely, however, have you acknowledged that there's many others (just as many? almost as many? more?) who like those exact features you want out, or who would be horrified at some of the solutions you suggest (such as listing the people who voted a topic up or down) -- or been willing to adapt your own suggested alternatives accordingly. I would not be surprised if a future thread of yours or Ebrowns reiterating these complaints will, for that exact reason, not be taken as painstakingly serious as many have responded to this one, at length.
The man has given you a ton of explanation, just not what you wanted to hear. Your sense of entitlement is off the charts.
