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Texas Holdem - Calculating your odds quickly

 
 
Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:11 pm
Here's a shortcut to calculate pot odds in poker. If you use odds right you have the basics of winning poker down.

Here's the formula: outs * 2 * cards left to deal

For example, let's say you have a flush draw. You have two hearts and two more are on the board so there are 9 unknown cards out there that are your "outs". It's the flop so you have two more cards coming.

So, 9 * 2 * 2 = 36

You have roughly a 36% chance of making your flush.

Note: this is not exact, and there's some rounding going on to make the calculation easier (specifically this is how you'd do it for a 50 card deck, not a 52 card deck) but you will only be off by a few percentage points and this is exact enough for competitive poker.

Learn the shortcut well and calculate your odds on every street.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:14 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Oooh Oooh, do blackjack next....

Wink Confused
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:15 pm
@Rockhead,
Sorry, I don't gamble. I've played black jack only once in my life and broke even. That's enough blackjack for me.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:18 pm
@Robert Gentel,
LOL, i take it u play poker but u dont gamble?


thats what i tell my friends, i dont gamble, i play poker.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:18 pm
@OGIONIK,
Exactly. Once you learn how to play right, it's a boring game of avoiding dangerous gambles.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:23 pm
@Robert Gentel,
i always hit my flushes if i get 4 on the flop, not very amazing but still, im gonna hate it when i dont hit it.

youd be suprised how often, well actually u prolly wont, that flushes dont win.

ive yet to win with pocket aces, GAY GAY GAY!!!!

i want to own with my pocket rockets!!!
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:30 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Blackjack is no lose till they toss you if you understand the deck, and have a roll...

(I no longer have a roll)
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:32 pm
@OGIONIK,
I'm usually not chasing, so if I'm involved it means someone is sucking out on me. If someone hits their flush draw on me they usually cracked a monster.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:33 pm
@Rockhead,
That's the thing, the only way you can use skill to win they consider cheating. Not worth learning if they don't let you be good at it.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:33 pm
@Rockhead,
i hate blackjack, they be having like 8 ******* decks int hat ******* shoe, WHAT THE HELL?

how am i supposed to keep track of the cards with that many effing decks?

INSANITY I SAY!
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:34 pm
@OGIONIK,
oh yeah i dont know the lingo, i dont know what chasing is but i can guess...
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:35 pm
@OGIONIK,
ya gotta count REALLY good...

I usually play privately when inclined anymore...

(not a big Vejas guy)
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:38 pm
@OGIONIK,
On the flop, if someone has a flush draw and I'm betting they only have a 36% chance of winning. Because I'll bet them out of pot odds, they will be "chasing" for their flush with bad odds.

In the long run, I win in those situations. But about 36% of the time I lose, and the most common "bad beat" (when you had the odds but they got lucky) is that precise scenario. Someone is chasing a flush or a straight and got lucky.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Thu 14 Aug, 2008 11:42 pm
@OGIONIK,
Laughing <- Just wanted to see if that worked... feel free to vote this post out of existence.
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