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Oh Boy! Popularity contests, already.

 
 
sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 07:48 am
@Borat Sister,
Mz Fluffybutt wrote:

Huh? Of what?


Claspers!

No.

Responses, like old europe mentioned a while back. (We compose, we hit "reply," and there are a cluster of posts that appeared in that small space of time.)
Borat Sister
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 07:50 am
@sozobe,
You called me Fluffybutt, she said darkly.


heh. Funny...I thought of claspers immediately!
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 07:51 am
@Phoenix32890,
One thing that I think people are getting a little hung up on is the idea of voting being about popularity. There are clearly OK threads, there are so-so threads, and there are clearly not-OK threads. I just don't think anyone's going to be very angsty about "PENIS ENLARGEMENT PILLS!! RESULTS GUARANTEED!! Click here!!!" posts being buried.
Borat Sister
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 07:52 am
@sozobe,
the WOman Who Means Business wrote:
I just don't think anyone's going to be very angsty about "PENIS ENLARGEMENT PILLS!! RESULTS GUARANTEED!! Click here!!!" posts being buried.


Except those with weeny wienies.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 08:04 am
@Borat Sister,
The woman who can't sort out her E-mail addresses wrote:
Re: sozobe (Post 3359260)
the WOman Who Means Business wrote: wrote:

I just don't think anyone's going to be very angsty about "PENIS ENLARGEMENT PILLS!! RESULTS GUARANTEED!! Click here!!!" posts being buried.


Except those with weeny wienies.

I suspect that those with weeny wienies are going to be angsty no matter what.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 08:08 am
Perhaps my mind will be changed in time, but I currently join with those who don't like rating members as okay or not okay. The ignore function should be sufficient both for unruly members and for topics we don't care to follow. I do appreciate having an ignore button. I don't like the idea that somebody will be voted thumbs down because he or she expresses an unpopular view or expresses an opinion outside the mainstream and I think such could discourage anything but the prevailing views being expressed. Boring.

I do very much appreciate the speed of the site--so far am not having much problem finding what I want to follow.

SUGGESTION: Perhaps a 'new posts' or 'new topics' feature would speed up navigation and help everybody keep up better?
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 08:14 am
@Foxfyre,
New posts is simple. Select "All topics->All time->New Posts."
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 08:16 am
@DrewDad,
Yes, it's simple, but now you have to wade through people wondering how to use verbs and pronouns.

[telling myself]...give it time Sad
Borat Sister
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 08:30 am
@Foxfyre,
You can vote only for threrads, I think, by voting up the first post of a thread you like.


You CAN search by New Topic or New Post, you know.

Have a look at the boxes on the page you get when you log in.

Others have explained this better than I...but if you click on "All Time" you can then search the entire site..old and new...for new posts and new topics..move to your right on the Log in page, and you will see "Sort By".

You can do that in a variety of ways, including new posts and new topics.

Did that make sense?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 08:31 am
@maporsche,
So vote down the threads you don't want to see. Then they'll disappear from your view.
Borat Sister
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 08:32 am
@DrewDad,
He Who Defines Himself by the Fruit of His Loins wrote:
I suspect that those with weeny wienies are going to be angsty no matter what.



Thou speakest sooth, I fear.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 08:47 am
@DrewDad,
I do.....but there are a lot of posts to sift through.
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squinney
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 09:08 am
Drewdad wrote:
Quote:
So vote down the threads you don't want to see. Then they'll disappear from your view.


They will disappear from my view? Or everyones view once it has enough down votes? Is it an individual vote that takes it out of your own view? Or, collaborative votes that takes it out of everyones view by moving it towards the end of the list of threads?
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 09:13 am
@squinney,
It disappears from your view, and folks can set the threshold at which it disappears from their view (or disable that feature altogether).

Anyone viewing by votes will have it moved toward the bottom of the list.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 09:14 am
@DrewDad,
"Disappear" may be a little strong. It hides the thread title, gives you a little notification that the thread is hidden, and gives you the option to view the title anyway.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 09:14 am
@squinney,
It's probably easier to think of them as being "collapsed." They're there, just not immediately visible.

As far as I know, currently, every single post is be visible to people who want to see them (whether it's collapsed or not). Craven has said that some illegal stuff will be removed entirely, but I think that for most practical purposes, you can assume that everything will be ultimately visible, just collapsed or not.

People can choose their settings for what is collapsed and what isn't. Default seems to be -10 for a topic, and -5 for a post.

That means that (if you have the default setting), if 10 people have voted a topic down, it's collapsed for you on any list of topics. If 5 people have voted an individual post down, it's collapsed for you on any thread.

My understanding is that once you vote something down (a topic or a post), it is collapsed for YOU, but it needs to reach the threshold for it to be collapsed for other people.

Make any sense?
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 09:20 am
@squinney,
Squinney wrote:
They will disappear from my view? Or everyones view once it has enough down votes? Is it an individual vote that takes it out of your own view? Or, collaborative votes that takes it out of everyones view by moving it towards the end of the list of threads?

Both - but people can still change their settings do they are not affected by how others voted at all.

I.e.:

1) Voting down a post removes it from your view (and from your view only).

2) If enough people vote a post down, it will be removed from everyone's view by default.

3) They will still not be deleted; just like when you remove a post from your view by voting it down, you can still view these "removed" posts after all. It will say in small letters, "Post voted down (view)", and if you click View, there it will be again.

4) If you don't like this whole system of having the collective vote of others determine which views disappear from your sight, you can simply bypass it. If you click on your name at the top right of the screen and then click "Edit Preferences", you will see mysterious-sounding options under "General Preferences" called "topic_threshold" and "post_threshold". If it now says -5 or -10 or -15, that means that individual posts resp. threads as a whole will not appear for you once they have been voted down a net 5, 10 or 15 times. But you can switch both settings to "no collapsing". If you do that, no post or topic should disappear for you anymore, no matter how many people vote against it.
nimh
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 09:24 am
@nimh,
And:

5) If you don't like the system of how the collective vote takes threads out of everyones view by moving them towards the end of the list of threads, you can bypass that too. On the homepage, in the light blue bar underneath "All topics", on the right side you have a drop-down menu saying "Sort by". Just replace "Most votes" by "New topics" or "New Posts", and you will see all threads that have been started or responded to latest, no matter how many votes up or down it got.
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squinney
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 09:24 am
Okay. That makes sense and was the way I hoped it would work. I'll just change my preferences then to keep things expanded. I don't want others deciding what I can and can't see or read based on their preferences for topics or users.

I won't be voting much. Probably just a thumbs up here and there to replace a smiley or laugh.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2008 10:12 am
@nimh,
Quote:
Re: squinney (Post 3359351)
[....]
4) If you don't like this whole system of having the collective vote of others determine which views disappear from your sight, you can simply bypass it. If you click on your name at the top right of the screen and then click "Edit Preferences", you will see mysterious-sounding options under "General Preferences" called "topic_threshold" and "post_threshold". If it now says -5 or -10 or -15, that means that individual posts resp. threads as a whole will not appear for you once they have been voted down a net 5, 10 or 15 times. But you can switch both settings to "no collapsing". If you do that, no post or topic should disappear for you anymore, no matter how many people vote against it.


Well, the default setting has been "no collapsing".
 

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