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WHAT IS GIVING LOVE TO CHILDREN ?

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 09:50 pm
No, I mean all of us feeding the Ick threads, for near robotic forever.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 10:03 pm
I know what you mean, osso. I have a hard time leaving the "ick" alone simply because I hate "ick".

As far as I know nobody else has used the name "boomerang". I was boomerang on Abuzz and I've been boomarang here. I've never presented myself as anything other than who I am.

Yes, I appreciated his thoughtfulness.

I was working two jobs and going to college and living on my own in a ghetto and he knew how much freedom his gift would allow me. He was truly a friend to me. I try to pass his generosity on whenever I can.

It doesn't depend on what he wants at all.

Giving any child everything he wants is abusive. It creates a monster of a person. You cannot buy your child a happy life; it is something they have to accomplish on their own.

A parents job is to teach their child how to walk in the world with competence and confidence. Money doesn't teach that.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 10:07 pm
ossobuco wrote:
No, I mean all of us feeding the Ick threads, for near robotic forever.


on the other hand life is messy, maybe being able to talk a bit about icky things is OK. Those on the left make the same mistake as those on the right....trying to sanitize life.....trying to make life unfit for humans.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 10:42 pm
I'm not engaging you on this, Hawkeye, and your post had nothing at all to do with me. I don't understand that last part of your post either, Boomer, as I don't read all this, but I figure I would if I read more.

I posted in a weary effort to stop the feeding. That's it.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 10:50 pm
ossobuco wrote:
I'm not engaging you on this, Hawkeye, and your post had nothing at all to do with me. I don't understand that last part of your post either, Boomer, as I don't read all this, but I figure I would if I read more.

I posted in a weary effort to stop the feeding. That's it.


where I come not being willing to converse with people with whom you disagree is a self defeating character flaw...but so be it.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 11:06 pm
boomerang wrote:



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I love the banannas thing.... so true! What an impossible flavor.

Personally I don't think David is a troll.
Sure, he has some wacky ideas but he also has some interesting ideas.



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Love is so complicated.
To think that it can be created with money is... well.... perplexing.

Well, let me say 2 different, distinct things in response to that:

1 ) Actually, what I said (check me on this) is that love to a person
is EXPRESSED as kindness
and IF that is successful, it is absorbed into its target, as JOY.

2 ) Altho I did not assert this before in this thread,
I can make a case in support of the proposition
that the use of money can create love
(based upon my personal observation).

For instance:
In the early 1990s, I had occasion to throw some dimes, quarters n half dollars
out into the grass in front of some children; a little like an Easter egg hunt.
Strangers. I went on my way, while thay looked for the coins.
As to 3 of those children,
their father was a very money-conscious person.
He contrived a situation whereby his 2 older children sought me out
and befriended me. Thay invited me over for dinner.
Thay invited me over for birthdays. Thay invited me over for graduations.
Thay called me at home; thay wrote to me at home. Thay wanted me to go out with them,
especially to their back-to-school shopping expedition,
to whose finanacing I contributed, after the father arranged for me
to take his family into town. Now clearly, the father did not bear
LOVE to me; he saw an opportunity. However, the other members of the
family were genuinely less mercenary.

From the inception of hurling cash,
warm friendships grew among us of strong mutual good will.
I have not seen them for around ten years,
but I do not regret our association; it was a fun part of my life.
To the extent that it was financially exploitive,
I don 't mind; not then n not now.

Yet, this is distinct from situations wherein young ladies of an age to be
my grandchild try to get too close, for obvious reasons.
I am not going to be like that old man in the wheelchair who married
Anna Nicole Smith.




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I grew up with nothing but love and I was a happy kid.

I had love too,
but I was happier with cash around, to mitigate my lonliness n boredom.


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I lived long enough without any money to understand and respect the importance of money.
But money isn't even close to everything.

Agreed.
It is not everything; freedom is important too.




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It certainly isn't love.

Of itself, money is metal or paper.

I believe that love is expressed
to a person as kindness, and if that kindness is successful, it is absorbed as JOY.




David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jul, 2008 11:51 pm
boomerang wrote:



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I know what you mean, osso.
I have a hard time leaving the "ick" alone simply because I hate "ick".

As far as I know nobody else has used the name "boomerang".
I was boomerang on Abuzz and I've been boomarang here.
I've never presented myself as anything other than who I am.

Then the fault is in my memory.
U have my apology.





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Yes, I appreciated his thoughtfulness.

U must have made a good impression on him.


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I was working two jobs and going to college and living on my own in
a ghetto and he knew how much freedom his gift would allow me.

He was truly a friend to me.

Q.E.D.


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I try to pass his generosity on whenever I can.

That can be FUN, depending on how u do it.



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It doesn't depend on what he wants at all.

Giving any child everything he wants is abusive. It creates a monster of a person.

I understand your thinking.




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You cannot buy your child a happy life; it is something they have to accomplish on their own.

A parents job is to teach their child how to walk in the world with competence and confidence. Money doesn't teach that.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 12:37 am
Rockhead wrote:
Dave, I recommend a moment or three of reflection...

Love has nothing to do with money, unless money is all you have to give.

The unanimous consensus among people who have
reported upon "life review experiences" after returning from death
(usually in hospitals) is that on Judgment Day,
the decedent is the judge,
who judges by 2 criteria: love and learning.
Hence, thay may be important.

If u pass a stranger in a public place,
u will be very ill advised to go to smooching on her; (even WORSE, on him).
Either u will or will NOT express love.
Please tell me if having love but NOT expressing it is any good ?

So far as I can see,
love can only be expressed as kindness.
If I have OVERLOOKED some other way of expressing it,
please enlighten me.

Take this as a successful expression thereof:
I remember on New Year 's Day, I was taking 2 young ladies
to the movies, in downtown Manhattan. A red haired lad, maybe 20 years old,
looked Irish, approached me and asked if I coud spare a quarter.
I sent the ladies on ahead, and gave him $5; he showed great surprize.
I said:
" There s something I want u to DO. "
He asked me what it was.
After a pause, I said:
" Have a very HAPPY New Year."
This expressed good will was a success; he was effusively happy, blessing me all over the place.

Some of the people who have returned from death
and reported upon life review experiences
have said that u feel the emotions
that u have inflicted upon your fellow beings.
" as ye sow so shall ye reap "






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Bless you for trying, but true understanding can not be purchased.

Keep searching,

Rock

The subject matter of this thread
is GIVING LOVE. "Understanding" is a distinct concept.
If u want understanding,
I imagine that u shoud hire a competent teacher who understands.




David
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