I thought we were discussing gunga.
It was a joke Ed.
You had said that gunga's posts had no substance.
As I have been unable to detect any substance in Mr Obama's posts, those I have seen where the cheering was the loudest, which are the only ones we get to see, I thought it a fair comparison.
And that it was worth pointing out that Mr Obama is 15% ahead in the polls which is far more important than bothering about substances or matters of right or wrong.
gunga's post on the pyramids was "romantic" IMO. It had that rare capacity to fire-up a young imagination that has been held dormant by your school boards, associated ne're-do-wells, carpet-baggers, chancers and all-round, expert suckers at the pap of official largesse.
Such sparkings of dormant imaginations can lead to an interest in pyramids, signing up for an archeology course, and ologies are "up there",
becoming a world renowned scientific explorer and ending up in an expedition to find the Venus of Willendorf's Big Stick and counting the notches on it.
All a waste of time of course because I can tell them how many notches it had on it.
So send me a cheque for, say, a 1/4 of the cost and you're quids in.
We all win.
Setanta's pathetic attempt at a put-down of gunga's pyramid post wouldn't inspire a seasoned missionary to try it the other way round despite the whimpering pleas to the contrary. (Not mentioned in Origins). One might easily sleep through it. It was so "me-so."
In the article Revelation Evangelique sa Necessite
which is a small part of the Dictionnaire des Origines du Christianisme
there is this-
Paganism invented a mob of divinities with the most hateful character, and attributed to them the most monstrous and abominable crimes. It personified in them drunkenness, incest, kidnapping, adultery, sensuality, knavery, cruelty and rage.
What must naturally (note the word carefully) have been the state of morals under the influence of such a religion, which penetrated with its own spirit the public life, the family life, and the individual life of antiquity?
What guarantee do we have that the vacuum created by atheism will not be abhorred, as vacuums are notorious for being, by these self-same gods of personal selfishness which inspired such a description?
We do have some evidence that the decline in Christian values has been closely tracked by an acceptance, in the name of free will, of certain behaviour patterns not unadjacent to the things mentioned which are by no means to be underestimated simply because the practical details pertaining to such abstract concepts are omitted so that responsible adult discussions can take place without blushing.
One might easily discuss "adultery", say, as an abstract concept and leave the practical details to one side if one has no involvement and merely enjoy pondering the matter.
In my experience it is somewhat sordid in practice. Especially during what is known as the "post coital euphoria" phase which is quite short and, I should think, murderous for non-smokers.
One does have to bear in mind that Americans are in a position to practice the madness of what Matthew Arnold called "unbounded self-indulgence".
Not all of them of course but the ones who set the tone.