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The violent wake of gun control

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 07:12 am
cjhsa wrote:
contrex wrote:
OGIONIK wrote:
bottom line if you have a gun and everyone knows it, who is going to try to rob/assault you?


ill wait for an answer.


Another guy with a gun who thinks he may be a better shot/quicker on the draw than you, or who is a demented loony or an over confident kid or high on drugs.

I presume they don't have newspapers where you come from?


Apparently the newspapers where you live equate lowlifes with citizens.

Yeah, because only citizens would "try to rob/assault you". Rolling Eyes
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 07:15 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:

We are here considering only the probabilities.


Sure, and the only probabilities for societies without guns are chaos and anarchy or a police state?

You haven't answered about the countries I listed. Are they chaotic or a police state? Or perhaps the original author does have his head up his behind.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 07:22 am
parados wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
contrex wrote:
OGIONIK wrote:
bottom line if you have a gun and everyone knows it, who is going to try to rob/assault you?


ill wait for an answer.


Another guy with a gun who thinks he may be a better shot/quicker on the draw than you, or who is a demented loony or an over confident kid or high on drugs.

I presume they don't have newspapers where you come from?


Apparently the newspapers where you live equate lowlifes with citizens.

Yeah, because only citizens would "try to rob/assault you". Rolling Eyes


The fact that you miss the point continually doesn't need to be brought up again.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 07:38 am
cjhsa wrote:
parados wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
contrex wrote:
OGIONIK wrote:
bottom line if you have a gun and everyone knows it, who is going to try to rob/assault you?


ill wait for an answer.


Another guy with a gun who thinks he may be a better shot/quicker on the draw than you, or who is a demented loony or an over confident kid or high on drugs.

I presume they don't have newspapers where you come from?


Apparently the newspapers where you live equate lowlifes with citizens.

Yeah, because only citizens would "try to rob/assault you". Rolling Eyes


The fact that you miss the point continually doesn't need to be brought up again.


The original question is there for all to read. If anyone missed the point, it was you.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 07:43 am
Disarm yourself, dork, but don't try to tell me to do so.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 07:46 am
cjhsa wrote:
Disarm yourself, dork, but don't try to tell me to do so.


Is your manhood threatened because I pointed out your error so now you feel you have to call me names?

Why don't you just pull your gun and prove to everyone how much of a man you really are?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 07:50 am
I have made no error, dork, you created a logical fallicy.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 08:24 am
cjhsa wrote:
I have made no error, dork, you created a logical fallicy.

You should have just pulled your gun and waved it around. You are less likely to do damage to yourself that way.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 08:35 am
i think it's a logical phallusy... this whole thread and their likes :wink:
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 08:40 am
parados wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
I have made no error, dork, you created a logical fallicy.

You should have just pulled your gun and waved it around. You are less likely to do damage to yourself that way.


You will never see me pull my gun.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 09:01 am
dagmaraka wrote:
i think it's a logical phallusy...
this whole thread and their likes :wink:

That is a nice play on words; I like your humor,
but it has no basis in fact. I consider myself to be an authority on that.

I remember lying in bed (a lot more than once) around age 3
(this was 5 years before I had any functional guns-- I only had immitations)
fantasizing about misappropriating not just the revolver of a police officer
or of a bank guard, but his entire rig, including his bandolier with holster n ammunition.
Neither THEN, nor at any time since,
have I ever associated the possession of defensive weaponry with sexuality.
To my mind, a flashy car is more sexual, in the sense that it can be a chic magnet;
it has never occurred to me (nor to anyone of whom I 've ever heard)
to try to attract a chic with a firearm.

At meetings of the NRA, or of other pro-freedom groups,
we have NEVER even once discussed guns in even a vaguely sexual context.

I LIKE guns (some guns more than others).
I enjoy guns, as I do my old gold coins,
but I have never associated either with sexuality.
Thay are just not related, except in the minds
of people who are aversive to guns.


David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 09:16 am
contrex wrote:
OGIONIK wrote:
bottom line if you have a gun and everyone knows it, who is going to try to rob/assault you?


ill wait for an answer.


Another guy with a gun who thinks he may be a better shot/quicker on the draw than you, or who is a demented loony or an over confident kid or high on drugs.

I presume they don't have newspapers where you come from?

Contrex, I take it that u advocate meeting robbery attempts
by demented loonys with absolute helplessness, right ?
In your ideal, the victim shud be as defenseless as a butterfly ?

Do u approve of the begging and grovelling strategy of defense, Contrex ?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 09:23 am
I don't find guns sexy either. Now girls with guns.... that's a whole 'nuther ballgame.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 09:30 am
This is my pre-1964 Winchester 32-Special carbine, still with its original bluing. They don't get much prettier than that, but sexy?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 09:30 am
This is my pre-1964 Winchester 32-Special carbine, still with its original bluing. They don't get much prettier than that, but sexy?

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/cjhsa/Picture001.jpg
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 09:30 am
sorry for the double post
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 09:34 am
no, it doesn't mean sexy.... just compensating for other things.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 09:54 am
parados wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:

We are here considering only the probabilities.

My point about probabilities
is that altho the 2nd Amendment does not warrant
that u will win every gun fight, it enables u to have some means,
of some degree of value, to control a predatory emergency, if one arises,
instead of simply being HELPLESS.
The 2A divests government (prospectively) of any jurisdiction
for it to go into partnership with predatory criminals,
to insure their well-being on-the-job (as per O.S.H.A.), protecting
the criminals from the defenses of their victims.

This also applies to the citizens' rights to self-defense
from the occasional depredations of predatory animals.
(I saw some fellow trapped in his kitchen in Los Angeles by a cougar.
Police looked thru the window,
but refused to enter and help him. Thay told him to use his own gun.)



Quote:
Sure, and the only probabilities for societies without guns are chaos
and anarchy or a police state?

You haven't answered about the countries I listed.

Did u address that question to ME ?
I don 't believe that u did.
However, now u have, so I will answer:
I do not believe that any of them is in a state of chaos,
altho criminal violence using guns has very abruptly risen in England,
particularly armed robberies of homes in which their occupants
are KNOWN to be within, but disarmed, by law, so that
is movement in the direction of chaos, in England.

I deem:
England
France and
Japan to be police states.

I lack sufficient information to judge Australia or Germany.





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Are they chaotic or a police state?

See above.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 10:02 am
cjhsa wrote:
This is my pre-1964 Winchester 32-Special carbine, still with its original bluing. They don't get much prettier than that, but sexy?

What 's the new avatar ?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 10:07 am
dagmaraka wrote:
no, it doesn't mean sexy....
just compensating for other things.

OK: the burden of proof is on the affirmative.

WHAT evidence do u have, Dagmaraka, of this compensation,
other than the invideous character assassination from
the anti-self defense crowd ?

Did u run a statisitical analysis of your lovers or husbands ?
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