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You Can't Do This in France

 
 
cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 06:43 am
Set: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ........

Criminal this and illegal that... I'll tell you what's criminal - is that our educational system produces minds like yours.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 06:48 am
Obviosly Set doesn't care that France has a huge problem with Islamic immigrants and they are so scared that they might riot and burn **** that they make stupid laws like the one they prosecuted Bardot under.

I say, screw the French, and f*** Islam.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 07:41 am
As opposed the result of the educational system's effort in a case such as yours, in which there is no evidence of a mind at all . . .
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 08:10 am
Could you be a bigger blowhard?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 08:41 am
cjhsa wrote:

I say, screw the French, and f*** Islam.


As far as I remember, Francis is the only French here.

But we Europeans and most of the Americans seem to have got, indeed, a much more decent socialisation and education.

And very few Americans on this board just want to prove continuously that they grew up not only under the worst influences but got their graduation from a school for children with learning difficulties via a charity's lottery.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 08:58 am
cjhsa wrote:
I say, screw the French, and f*** Islam.

I imagine that Nicolas Sarkozy is quite interested in the opinions of racist, immigrant-fearing, gun-waving Americans.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 09:00 am
I'm quite sure he is. Islam is a huge problem for the French.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 09:01 am
It's haining right now.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 09:01 am
DrewDad wrote:

I imagine that Nicolas Sarkozy is quite interested in the opinions of racist, immigrant-fearing, gun-waving Americans.


At least, he didn't like Bardot's letter - he got it first, during his time as interior minister.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 09:02 am
cjhsa wrote:
I'm quite sure he is. Islam is a huge problem for the French.


After or before they were srewed?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 09:04 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
I'm quite sure he is. Islam is a huge problem for the French.


After or before they were srewed?

Don't the French delight in screwing and f***ing? More power to 'em, I say.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 09:05 am
cjhsa wrote:
It's haining right now.


Posted in the wrong forum.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 09:09 am
cjhsa wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
It's haining right now.


Posted in the wrong forum.

Nobody cares.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 05:51 am
MTV fined $484,500 by U.K. regulator
Net taking steps to prevent future breaches
By STEVE CLARKE


MTV Networks Europe has been fined a total of £255,000 ($484,500) by U.K. media regulator Ofcom for "widespread and persistent" breaches of its broadcasting code by four of its channels.

The Viacom-owned operator will have to pay the following penalties: TMF £80,000 ($152,000), MTV France £35,000 ($66,500), MTV UK £80,000 ($152,000) and MTV Hits £60,000 ($114,000).

The "highly offensive language and material" was broadcast before the 9pm family-viewing watershed.

Auds complained about a number of shows. They included: repeated use of the words "************", "**** you" and "****" in a music video by Aphex Twin for the song "Windowlicker" on TMF, and racist and homophobic text messages aired by MTV France in "Belge Chat."

Additionally TMF screened a trailer for the reality skein "Totally Jodie Marsh" on seven occasions between 9.48am and 3.15pm on July 24 last year containing the sentence: "I just don't want you settling down with some ******* wanker from a modeling agency."

Other breaches identified by Ofcom included a 4.30pm broadcast of MTV UK show "Totally Boyband" in 2006 featuring "extensive offensive language."

In a statement the regulator said: "Ofcom concluded that this material was not justified by the context of broadcasts that were likely to appeal to children and that the likely audience would have expected to have been protected from the most offensive language and material in such programming."

A spokesman for MTV said: "MTV Networks Europe takes this sanction and fine very seriously and has taken a series of steps to minimize as much as possible any breaches in the future.

"These include strengthening procedures regarding programs for pre-watershed broadcast, reviewing MTV's archive programming, increasing the number of staff involved in compliance and investing in a new channel management system."


Here in the States we have broadcast, cable, and sattelite, to name a few formats. Only broadcast TV is really subjected these types of silly rules. It should be noted that MTV is not broadcast OTA at all, only over cable/sat.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 07:00 am
Setanta wrote:
Boo-hoo, Brandon the champion of Free Expression.

In the first place, i don't believe you for a moment, because neither have you ever mentioned or started a thread about free speech and hate speech issues in Germany and England (do you even know what those issues are?). So i don't for a moment doubt, given your rabid and desperate clinging to a flimsy justification for the criminal war in Iraq, that your motivation is a hatred for the French because they would not join the Shrub in that criminal war--all of your virtuous protestations notwithstanding.

It is not the ideas which are forbidden, it is the public expression of them, so spare me your sanctimonious "holier-than-thou" attitude. Mlle Bardot has been charged with this crime on several previous occasions, so she knew what she was doing before she did it. France is a democratic republic, and a sovereign nation, so they have the right to enact legislation without consulting Brandon in advance about his personal opinion of the propriety of any proposed legislation. Bardot shot her mouth off, knowing the likely consequences, and she's getting slapped down for it, just as even someone as dim-witted as is she would have known.

Boo-hoo.

Yes, she probably did know or ought to have known that she might be punished for expressing her opinion, even in a private letter. If someone in any country that outlaws free expression defies the law, then he ought to know that there may be consequences. That doesn't make it right, though, to outlaw free speech, and, despite your speculation as to my motives, the truth is that I am really horrified to see this happening in Western Europe. Do you believe that its alright or unimportant when a country outlaws the "public expression" of ideas?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 07:05 am
Francis wrote:
Francis wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
it alleges an objective lie about your actions which injures you tangibly, or the speaker is harassing you, or directly exhorting others to commit violence against you.


When I said you are not listening..

Is this an opinion: directly exhorting others to commit violence against you?

No, or course, not. I am saying that free speech should be permitted except in those special cases.
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Francis
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 07:16 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
I am saying that free speech should be permitted except in those special cases.


I'm saying that too and, till now, nobody prevented me from expressing my opinions.

But my moderation and my law abiding orientation did prevent me from uttering racial hatred comments, unlike Mrs Bardot.

You know, you can say than you don't agree with the immigration policy of an European country.

You can even say that the Muslim culture is incompatible with the European values.

But you cannot say (publicly) that people should harm the Muslims because they are Muslims, in violent terms.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 07:32 am
What if you invite them all over to a pig roast?
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Francis
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 08:22 am
I wouldn't invite them for a pig roast, nor would I invite you for snails or frog legs..

Let alone tête de veau..
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 08:31 am
I won't eat snails. We had so many in California that I just got grossed out by them. After a rain, thousands of them would come out of the lilys and from under porches, and well, ick. I will dunk bread in the snail scented garlic butter though, and frog legs are delicious. Not much interest in calf's head, but I do love most veal.

I can talk food with just about anyone.
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